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They are small-minded beyond belief, and consumed by petty revenge fantasies.
The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down
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They are small-minded beyond belief, and consumed by petty revenge fantasies.
Soldato
Tell me you don't understand what Verification was actually for without explicitly saying that you don't understand what Verification was actually for.
Hmm
Is Elon Musk really a 'free speech absolutist'?
Elon Musk, the Twitter owner, is in his own words a ‘free speech absolutist’. He promised to combat censorship and allow a broader range of voices on the social media platform as part of his pitch for acquiring the company last October. It is, then, hard to square his free speech bombast with...www.spectator.co.uk
Free Speech Absolutist Elon Musk Announces New Limits on Free Speech
Self-proclaimed "free speech absolutist" and Twitter CEO Elon Musk has announced limits to free speech on his recently acquired social media platform.futurism.com
Elon Musk personally ordered the Twitter suspension of activist, report claims
Twitter CEO has overseen effort to punish his critics while cozying up to far-right accountswww.independent.co.uk
Everyday Philosophy: Elon Musk, the 'free speech absolutist'
It seems, however, that Musk is set to take a laissez-faire approach to free speech with minimal moderation on the platformwww.theneweuropean.co.uk
But I guess you'll dismiss that as the fake news media, so I wonder what the guy says himself
I'm sure he's changed his tune when it suits him, but to say he hasn't presented himself as a free speech absolutist, before he got into the mire of Twitter, is just lying.
Yeah i mean you're linking articles that say his position is that he will follow the law on speech, he isn't a free speech absolutist, you know he isn't.
Soldato
... fascinating.
Meanwhile, I missed this one the other day - Twitter requiring all advertisers to buy a blue tick unless they spend at least $1k p/m on the platform.
Variety said:
So when Musk described himself as a free speech absolutist, he was lying? Mistaken?
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What you wrote here, makes no sense.
He says sorry to be a free speech absolutist, on that issue, back in March '22. Since then he bought Twitter and banned Kanye West for anti-semitism and has said his position is that he'll follow the law on speech. In general he would like as much free speech as possible, but obviously there are lines such as how Kanye acted that go beyond what is reasonable.
Soldato
So Kanye anti semitic tweets are worse than Russian state media calling for genocide?
Soldato
Welp, there's the 'well, ackshually...' that we could all guess was coming
I highlighted what I reckon might be a key word there. Absolute, in this context meaning "not qualified or diminished in any way; total". As in, you can't be a free speech absolutist and then qualify that by placing limits on it. So Musk either is not a very good free speech absolutist, or lies about being one. Which is it?the dictionary said:
Elon Musk's Dad Says His Whole Life Was Funded by That Emerald Mine
In recent months, Elon Musk has backtracked on previous claims that his family owned part of an emerald mine. But according to his dad? The mine was real.
futurism.com
I mean you're talking about someone using extremely antisemitic language on twitter vs blocking all Russian news on Starlink. Not the same.
Soldato
That would be fitting with the definition of absolutist, yes.
But I will correct you on one thing - I don't want Musk to do anything much in particular other than concentrate on SpaceX
That would be fitting with the definition of absolutist, yes.
But I will correct you on one thing - I don't want Musk to do anything much in particular other than concentrate on SpaceX
His position on free speech is that he will follow the countries law, he ideologically supports free speech, but that isn't an absolute position - despite that one tweet where he said "sorry to be a free speech absolutist", I don't think he was setting out his official position for life on free speech based on that single tweet on that issue, but you're free to interpret it like that if you wish to misrepresent his actual views. Personally I think his position is that he doesn't like one sided speech.
Soldato
Your right he's just using the sorry to be a free speech absolutist as a weak defence about being spineless and on the wrong side of something.
He's absolutely not a free speech absolutist apart from when claiming he is he thinks it is a valid defence.
Yet again his tweets catch him out lying, good point.
Nooo too much nuance there, we must take snippets of what he's said and interpret them in the most uncharitable way possible.
He's on Ukraine's side, that's why he's donated $100m to them.
Caporegime
This is Musk's position on free speech, in his own words:
However, it's not the standard he applies to Twitter, where the rules are much more strict. If Musk applied to Twitter the standard to which he personally subscribes, Twitter would be like Gab.
However, it's not the standard he applies to Twitter, where the rules are much more strict. If Musk applied to Twitter the standard to which he personally subscribes, Twitter would be like Gab.
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Soldato
Kanye's tweets were perfectly legal and protected speech under US law. Russian state media is calling for genocide to be committed in Ukraine. I don't see a problem blocking Russian state media channels. Twitter has only blocked RT on Twitter in the EU because they were forced to legally.
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Just seeing it looks like Musk has now blue ticked pretty much every account that had over a million followers.
Including accounts that were never previously verified
Can someone remind me again what the blue tick is meant to show:
So far it seems it's gone:
Someone who has proven who they are, and it was given because they were notable (original)
Someone who has paid musk
Someone who has not paid musk but Musk doesn't want their accounts not to be verified because that looks bad and so he's "comping them" (against their wishes)
Any popular account including those that don't pay musk and were never previously verified.
Accounts belonging to people who are dead.
How soon till you get a blue tick token in your shreddies? At least when you buy a packet of shreddies you get to eat the packet.
Including accounts that were never previously verified
Can someone remind me again what the blue tick is meant to show:
So far it seems it's gone:
Someone who has proven who they are, and it was given because they were notable (original)
Someone who has paid musk
Someone who has not paid musk but Musk doesn't want their accounts not to be verified because that looks bad and so he's "comping them" (against their wishes)
Any popular account including those that don't pay musk and were never previously verified.
Accounts belonging to people who are dead.
How soon till you get a blue tick token in your shreddies? At least when you buy a packet of shreddies you get to eat the packet.
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