I think people like Musk MASSIVELY overlook the benefits of "lurkers" and people that use these websites without an account (ie people who just want to read but not engage in posting).
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I think people like Musk MASSIVELY overlook the benefits of "lurkers" and people that use these websites without an account (ie people who just want to read but not engage in posting).
Soldato
i'd say it's more that they massively overlook the desire for "lurkers" to sign up. when elon announced this change, he was quoted as saying about how lots of viewers are on the site without being logged in, and so they don't know any information about that user and they user gets a free experience without giving anything back. How hard is it to sign up/login after all. well it's not hard, and yet people still don't want to do it, and more so than ever due to elon being elon. imagine google deciding that to use their search engine you first have to sign up. what a whacky thought.
Ok sure
You uniquely think rocket man bad due to reasons. Okay.
The engineer who made the changes reported it, Musk made comment about it when the change was done and everyone has seen the end results and effect which has been mentioned in this thread not only time and time again but recently. You do see all the people in this thread saying things like
“Not to mention the algorithm promoting his words to people that don't follow him.
Every morning I woke up there would be a notification on my phone regarding a tweet he made, and I was not a follower. Eventually I just deleted the X app.”
They are not making that up, it is directly related to Feb 2023 when Musk had the engineers changed the algorithm to increase his post weighting by a factor of 1000. Pushing out what Musk doesn’t want to see and pushing in what he wants to see more off. Not only for himself but all users. Completely against free speech.
You call it a borderline conspiracy theory but not only has everyone seen the end result its directly there in the source code that was leaked online. As one exmple.
The source code and algorithm favours the far right leaning politics Musk prefers and pushes aside everything else. On top of that it looks like Musk’s own posts have an extra weighting of a factor of 1000 pushing them into places they don’t belong and pushing out the free speech of other users who are downgraded to make room for Musk.
Furthermore the algorithm was dividing people into Republicans and Democrats and then pushing a Republican agenda. How is that free speech?
Elon Musk reportedly had his own tweets prioritized out of jealousy
Platformer has interviewed Twitter employees to figure out why people's For You feeds turned into The Elon Musk show, and they said the company's engineers truly did build a system that benefited their CEO alone.
www.engadget.com
So this article explains it.
Engineers thought it could be a legitimate bug, so deployed the "fix" you posted above.
Elon posted the following, saying they did do that briefly, but they fixed it.
I'm not sure how you're proving the source code favours "far right leaning politics" since those lines of code have no weighting in that I can see? Is there anything more to it?
This doesn't mean anything. You're just saying negative changes that Musk has made but not actually specifying anything. It's probably more like "Twitter is bad for our brand image because the media has told us Elon Musk is bad, so we removed Twitter integration from the platform".
Yes it is that, and I will.
Well we're finally at the first interesting point of the post, I'm surprised that the "vast majority" of end users don't have a Twitter account, I'd suggest it's just that they're not signed in to Twitter on the device they clicked the link on. This frequently happens if you're using a business device and don't want to log in to your personal social media account on it I've personally found. I think probably this is a bad change overall and one they should revert.
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But he seems to not understand that you can still advertise to these people, so no they are not getting a free experience. He likely just doesn't like it because he can't use tailored advertising.
But honestly, i'm totally at the limit of my fatigue with the internet. i have so many accounts now that it isn't really manageable, and i would prefer to just not sign up to anything unless i absolutely have to.
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People are still wasting their time responding to Roarbot87 
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who's adverts?
they all but gone
Soldato
Same..
He's fine, you need an antedote to the constant whining about every time Musk takes a dump or something..People are still wasting their time responding to Roarbot87
Musk is an easy target, but when you rag on literally everything, it needs some 'balance'..
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Younger brother does a lot of image searches for his model painting to get reference pictures and see what other people have used (and hopefully information on what the actual paints used were), he's reached the point a long time ago where he's including "exclude this site" terms as muscle memory for pinterest etc.
Such sites actively make the internet worse imo, as they tend to pollute the search results with stuff you cannot access.
Yep. Instagram too.
I hate anything that is behind an account wall (where i don't want to post/engage)
Soldato
who's adverts?
No, not at all
All the decent trustworthy ones have gone, now the Ads are far more scam orientated. Like the "musk has just launched a crypto coin" ad that comes up every week or so.
Or the multitude of drop shipping ads that frequently now have community notes added to them saying its a drop shipper and available cheaper or elsewhere.
Or the ones advertising things that are illegal in the uk, like the new strimmer head that is made of metal (not allowed in the UK)
100% Ads are still just as much there. You just get junk ads now and outright scam adverts rather than legit businesses.
He should have carried a toilet in when he walked in, "who let that sink in" should have been "watch me flush twitter"
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slightly ot Is that a new rule?
I ask as my old Ryobi "Expand-it" strimmers came with interchangeable "brush cutter" blades which were metal.
I hope metal brushcutter blades are legal, I sell them daily in work.
Perhaps he means the kind where it's a chainsaw chain modified to go on the end of a strimmer.
Soldato
Where the head is designed for metal its fine
Its the adverts that encourage you to swap out nylon cord for metal cord thats not allowed.
The strimmers aren't designed to handle metal line.
I believe its ok to swap the whole head for one thats metal even on a strimmer thats not designed that way since the metal should never touch the guard.
Its the adverts that encourage you to swap out nylon cord for metal cord thats not allowed.
The strimmers aren't designed to handle metal line.
I believe its ok to swap the whole head for one thats metal even on a strimmer thats not designed that way since the metal should never touch the guard.
Soldato
The mental gymnastics are fun!Same..
He's fine, you need an antedote to the constant whining about every time Musk takes a dump or something..
Musk is an easy target, but when you rag on literally everything, it needs some 'balance'..
Not uniquely a growing number of people both who work directly with him and external like myself are noticing and pointing it out including fans of musk and people like myself that support him and like him. The problem here is you have an extreme bias and so are incorrectly writing off valid problems and criticism as just anti-musk media and bad rocket man nonsense. Just look at how you have reacted to my posts.
First you tried to bring the government into this as a way write off my posts. When my post has nothing to do with the government. Then when you was proven wrong about that you incorrectly and falsely accused me of watching and believing hysterical anti-Musk media which is just wrong and something you made up. Then you went onto trying to push a false narrative about anti Musk bad rocket man which couldn’t be further from the truth.
I support and approve of Musk’s Rocket business same for his EV business it’s great and pushing us forward. Its only Twitter where I think he was got it badly wrong and I have experienced direct problems in my job due to Musk negative changes towards Twitter.
Not only due to the technical changes he made in the background. Impacts like cost like removing free web integration via API’s and then charging a stupid free which would cost my organization something like an increased £30,000 yearly combined with the problem even if we pay that, our end customer wouldn’t even see our posts due to the login problem Musk created. Then all the other costs like needing to be certified and paying extra to get the posts promoted and seen which didn’t used to cost us money. The costs have increased so much they outweigh any benefit we had from using Twitter.
Rather then Twitter gain money by charging stupid amounts for all these things that used to be free. Musk has driven away a large part of the user base which has driven away the add revenue and click though revenue making a massive net negative which in turn has driven away the core advertises that brought in the main money Twitter relayed upon. But you just see that as “doesn't mean anything.”
This is just another example and case of your extreme bias problem. It got nothing to do with this. As an organisation we don’t care one bit about Musk’s image and from what I can tell neither do our customers.
We care about interacting with our end users which not only no longer works on Twitter but also costs us a massive increase in cost due to the backend API changes. End result we don’t use Twitter anymore and removed website integration. Why pay £30,000 extra to get nothing back. Even if we paid the £30,000 yearly we would be worse off getting less interactions with our customer then before Musk changes. (£30,000) is just a very quick paper napkin estimation to cover all the differing API’s, certified accounts that my organisation would need to run like we did before Musk took over its not 100% accurate.
I like Twitter if it wasn’t for the stupid costs and the fact we can no longer connect with our customers due to Musks changes we would still be using Twitter. We are not alone I see wide spread organisations doing the same as we have and are abandoning Twitter. I spoke to our web developer and approx. 90% of there clients removed Twitter like we did from our websites rather then pay the new costs.
Yes the many reports both internal and external including directly from engineers like Luca Belli the staff machine learning researcher who came to the conclusion “In six out of seven countries — all but Germany — Tweets posted by accounts from the political right receive more algorithmic amplification than the political left when studied as a group.“ Its been an on going problem that predates Musk taking over Twitter and has only got worse once Musk took over. On top of the link I gave you before you can do a good search for Twitter bias.
I haven't got this next link right now and its to late at night to search for it. Somewhere on reddit I think it was, there was a post where they dug into the source code and found all sorts of + and - rules about what is pushed towards or away from users.
Look at the EU report I linked to before that show Twitter is the no1 worst social media site for misinformation. Misinformation that has only got worse under Musk.
Very clearly the fix has not been applied and the weighting for Musk posts is still there. Just look at how many people still have the problem.
Last time I logged into Twitter on my personal account 90% of my posts feed was changed to Musk himself, America Sports, American far right Politics, American Music and other areas I have zero interest. I don’t even watch or like UK sport and music let alone American style. Instead of seeing all the brands and stuff I like to see it was everything Musk seems to favour.
Caporegime
Musk: 'I'm changing the verification criteria and making it a paid service. That will solve the bot problem.'
And then what happened?
And then what happened?
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By the looks of it Musk got at least 48 dollars, that's what happened going by that picture.
Mind you how many he kept after the real card holders realised their cards had been skimmed/copied/stolen and done chargebacks is anyone's guess (I'm trying to remember if chargebacks incur an additional fee for the company that gets the chargeback, in which case it could be negative income).
Mind you how many he kept after the real card holders realised their cards had been skimmed/copied/stolen and done chargebacks is anyone's guess (I'm trying to remember if chargebacks incur an additional fee for the company that gets the chargeback, in which case it could be negative income).
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You would certainly need to have balls of steel to consider riding in his space stuff.
And to think, once AI takes off, Musk will be one of our saviours. Yeah of course he holds human life in such high regard.
www.reuters.com
And to think, once AI takes off, Musk will be one of our saviours. Yeah of course he holds human life in such high regard.
At SpaceX, worker injuries soar in Elon Musk’s rush to Mars
Reuters documented more than 600 workplace injuries at SpaceX. Employees say they’re paying the price for Elon Musk’s push to reach Mars at breakneck speed.
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The idea that someone, especially an exec would be encouraging people NOT to wear high vis gear on sites with heavy plant equipment is utterly insane to me.
Most of the time such people know the basic reason for it, and know how hard the company (and themselves potentially personally) can pay the price for staff not wearing such things if needed.
5 times the industry standard of injuries* and not reporting them seems a little risky, especially given a lot of the people working in the company who are likely to get hurt are going to have skills and abilities that are going to be hard to replace, as one of the main reasons (other than the cost of insurance, or risk of being shut down due to safety) that companies tend to have to taking safety seriously isn't because they care about the staff, but because they care about the delays that follow if you end up down a skilled member of staff (not to mention the pesky OSHA investigations as to why you didn't have that bit of standard safety gear, or why you didn't replace a part you know was defective and a risk).
*So not even the excuse "this is a risky industry" when other companies and organisations in the same industry seem to be managing with far fewer injuries.
Most of the time such people know the basic reason for it, and know how hard the company (and themselves potentially personally) can pay the price for staff not wearing such things if needed.
5 times the industry standard of injuries* and not reporting them seems a little risky, especially given a lot of the people working in the company who are likely to get hurt are going to have skills and abilities that are going to be hard to replace, as one of the main reasons (other than the cost of insurance, or risk of being shut down due to safety) that companies tend to have to taking safety seriously isn't because they care about the staff, but because they care about the delays that follow if you end up down a skilled member of staff (not to mention the pesky OSHA investigations as to why you didn't have that bit of standard safety gear, or why you didn't replace a part you know was defective and a risk).
*So not even the excuse "this is a risky industry" when other companies and organisations in the same industry seem to be managing with far fewer injuries.
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