The R word

Racism is being redefined by the woke mob and people are seeing it everywhere. When you’re actively trying to detect something but there is very little of it occurring/it’s become relatively rare compared to the past then you get lots of false positives.

This lots of triggered types going “OMG that’s racist” but without being able to explain what specifically is racist about whatever they’re complaining about or indeed, in some cases, what they’re even complaining about. A recent trend has been for a poster to pop into a thread and just make a general comment about racist posts without even quoting or referring to anything actually posted. That in itself makes for quite a weak claim.

Lots of the time it’s perhaps just other people having a different opinion or view.
 
Anybody who denies there are a significant number of bigots on here that try and hide behind a pseudo intellectual persona, as well as those that quite happily are openly racist, is living in another world.

Other parts of this forum are more like an incel reddit sub forum than anything.
 
I don’t doubt there are some, there seem to be many more times when the accusation is thrown out there with no substance. If it’s so obvious then why do people so frequently struggle to point to it?

Lots of it seems to rely on mind reading and bad faith assumptions.
 
Maybe because racism isn't and has never been as simple as someone doing so openly.

Exhibit A,

Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry S. Dent, Sr. and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now you don't have to do that. All that you need to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues that he's campaigned on since 1964, and that's fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster.

Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?

Atwater: Y'all don't quote me on this. You start out in 1954 by saying, "N-g-r, n-g-r, n-g-r". By 1968 you can't say "n-g-r"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this", is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "N-g-r, n-g-r". So, any way you look at it, race is coming on the back-burner.
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Moving on, since everyone is set in their ways and ain't changing.

Edit: Oh I do have something to add. In response to the above 'abstract' version of racism, the boringly termed 'leftists' came up with their antithesis to it, which is why we're now in our current cultural spasm where nobody trusts anything and everything is broken because it's all been made purposefully obtuse.
 
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Will Gill said:
Ha :p

I've been here for 20 odd years and must admit, back in the day there were probably a few. That is certainly not the case today :)
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I'm glad to hear that.

Above there is a post stating abuse and harassment towards Asian families isn't real racism.

But attacks on white people through acts of terrorism is.

It's from the usual suspect. To me all racism is real racism. Obviously to him it's only real if it's against the master race.
 
The word 'racist' is the new 'paedophile'.

10 years ago, someone would be shot down as being a paedo because they looked at jailbait but turns out that they were 16/17 (thus legal).

Nowadays, people get shot down as being racist because they wore a sombrero hat at a fancy dress party.

I came into this thread thinking that it was the 4-letter town beginning with R that is banned. I still don't know why it's a banned word.
 
Most of the time on the forum I see people discussing the issues then someone will assume a racist motive, and call them racist.

Like on the Brexit thread, anti-Brexit people calling pro-Brexit people racist for not wanting to be in the EU, or the Trump threads were it seems to be assumed all Trump supporters are like Trump and/or must be racist.

I've not seen any actual racist posts, unless they get removed before I see them.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
Give us a clue
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It has cropped up a few times on "where shall I go"-type threads and it gets starred out by a Don or via the automatic filter. I don't know the significance of the town but I think people started to suggest it as a troll post or as an over-used OcUK meme. I'm just guessing though. "FTW" used to be starred out but not any more.

Back to racist, it has just become over-used, to the point that it has lost its meaning, making it more difficult for genuine racism to be called out.
 
BowdonUK said:
Most of the time on the forum I see people discussing the issues then someone will assume a racist motive, and call them racist.

Like on the Brexit thread, anti-Brexit people calling pro-Brexit people racist for not wanting to be in the EU, or the Trump threads were it seems to be assumed all Trump supporters are like Trump and/or must be racist.

I've not seen any actual racist posts, unless they get removed before I see them.
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The thing is, most of these people are labelled "supporters", when all they have done is defend something they may have done.
It's happened with me with both Trump and Tommy Robinson, neither of which I like.

But as they're so eager to say, "if it quacks like a duck..." or "Racist" , it's such a pathetic response to a discussion.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
I'm glad to hear that.

Above there is a post stating abuse and harassment towards Asian families isn't real racism.

But attacks on white people through acts of terrorism is.

It's from the usual suspect. To me all racism is real racism. Obviously to him it's only real if it's against the master race.
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Thats not exactly the point and i think you know that.

Any form of racism is reprehensible, thats clear.

But as with any crime, there are levels of severity and criminality involved. While I do sympathise about people throwing things into your garden for example is not on...

We are living in a society where children are getting blown up based upon nothing other than their country of birth.

Women are getting sexually assaulted and in some cases murdered walking along the street for no other reason than their gender and birthright.

I'm all for ending racism and really villifying it out of existance but I think we need to keep some perspective and tackle these 'isms' from the top down and tackling the most severe crimes and ensuring they get the airtime they need without offending sensibilities.
 
I think the forum is a bell curve where most posters are moderate but there are extremes at either end. There is definitely an upswell in posts and threads with a nationalistic, patriotic, anti-'them' flavor to them - I think most reasonable posters would see and agree with that comment. Do we have some pretty hard left supporters (I know, weak term, forgive me) who tend to jump straight to the OMG RACIST response? Yes, we do. Do we have a significantly larger (or perhaps more vocal?) base who are more encouraged to play down any hint of racism, attack the concept of racism, and still permeate their posts with subtle and no so subtle racist messaging? Absolutely we do.

We also have a couple of pretty clever people on the boards who, for whatever reason, take the position that putting down the first camp but remaining pretty quiet about the second, bigger, camp is the way they want to share their views. That's probably the one area that I don't get. I find them a bit confusing. Finally, there is at least one poster who I would put money on as not being in control of the account they signed up with and that that account is still in use in this thread and also in the Trump one in SC. Even a cursory glance at the change in language, sentence structure, areas of interest to post about, and general tone stands out a mile.

Have a good one,
mags.
 
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