The Rangers Saga and Fallout Thread

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Was that to me? Im not a Rangers supporter, im talking as a fan of other clubs, where its been assumed really that they would be catapulted back into the SPL.

They would be able to easily assemble a squad to stroll the league.
 
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Yeah. Can't argue with that. Even a youth academy team would probably romp it. Still going to be interesting to see who goes and who stays. There will have to be fairly major wage cuts all round.
 
Oh I'm sure all their highly overpaid primadonnas will happily stay on for a fraction of their old wages as they have always had a lifelong dream of playing for the 'gets.
 
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Got to laugh at the old "Rangers have lost their history" **** being spouted.

You want a precedent? Check out Hibernain FC's official history:
2 times Scottish Cup winners, with the first being in 1887. The club went out of business 4 years later and reformed again in 1892. Guess what Hibernian FC's official club records state: 2 times Scottish Cup winners (1887, 1902)

Case closed.
 
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Got to laugh at the old "Rangers have lost their history" **** being spouted.

You want a precedent? Check out Hibernain FC's official history:
2 times Scottish Cup winners, with the first being in 1887. The club went out of business 4 years later and reformed again in 1892. Guess what Hibernian FC's official club records state: 2 times Scottish Cup winners (1887, 1902)

Case closed.
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A delightful first post.

So as history generally has happened we can all go on about how Rangers used money they didn't have to pay players they couldn't other wise afford to win leagues. Probably should put a little asterisk next to the seasons this applies to for the fun of it.

Fascinated what Scottish football is going to do next next week. I'm a little confused to the sale last week, has everything but the spl place and debt moved into a new company and basically blindly hoping they will get back in?
 
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A delightful first post.

So as history generally has happened we can all go on about how Rangers used money they didn't have to pay players they couldn't other wise afford to win leagues. Probably should put a little asterisk next to the seasons this applies to for the fun of it.

Fascinated what Scottish football is going to do next next week. I'm a little confused to the sale last week, has everything but the spl place and debt moved into a new company and basically blindly hoping they will get back in?
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Couldn't otherwise afford? Really? I assume you are the first person in the world to know of the FTT's ruling on the use of EBT's? No, didn't think so... It's hardly my first post. I was one of the biggest contributors to this thread before some over zealous admin decided to prevent me from posting in this section of the forum with absolutely no explanation or reason as to why!

Again, I point you to the point raised above regarding Hibernian since you have ignored the very point I made. If Rangers history is removed from the club (not the business that was founded 27 years after the club) then I suggest you contact Hibernain FC and the SFA to ensure that Hibs can no longer lay claim to the 1887 Scottish Cup.

As for the money they couldn't otherwise afford nonsense, will we put a little asteriks next to Manchester City's title win last season, or Chelsea's titles wins post Abramovich? How about FC Barcelona's recent 3 Champions League titles despite owing over €600 million and over €40 million to the Spanish tax authority? What about closer to home where Aberdeen FC have a debt circa £15 million shich is more than their annual turnover - would they be able to survive as an SPL club without having run up such a a debt?

FACT - Rangers were placed into administration due to the non payment of VAT, PAYE and NIC from June 2011 until February 2012.
 
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Couldn't otherwise afford? Really? I assume you are the first person in the world to know of the FTT's ruling on the use of EBT's? No, didn't think so... It's hardly my first post. I was one of the biggest contributors to this thread before some over zealous admin decided to prevent me from posting in this section of the forum with absolutely no explanation or reason as to why!

Again, I point you to the point raised above regarding Hibernian since you have ignored the very point I made. If Rangers history is removed from the club (not the business that was founded 27 years after the club) then I suggest you contact Hibernain FC and the SFA to ensure that Hibs can no longer lay claim to the 1887 Scottish Cup.

As for the money they couldn't otherwise afford nonsense, will we put a little asteriks next to Manchester City's title win last season, or Chelsea's titles wins post Abramovich? How about FC Barcelona's recent 3 Champions League titles despite owing over €600 million and over €40 million to the Spanish tax authority? What about closer to home where Aberdeen FC have a debt circa £15 million shich is more than their annual turnover - would they be able to survive as an SPL club without having run up such a a debt?

FACT - Rangers were placed into administration due to the non payment of VAT, PAYE and NIC from June 2011 until February 2012.
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Chelsea, Manchester City, Barcelona as far as Im aware, have not been forced into liquidation which would suggest as it stands, they are not spending outside of their means, while Rangers, have been as they couldnt afford to pay their tax.
 
Personally I hope Rangers are put into Division 3, if the fans put their hands in their pockets then the club will be back int he SPL for all it's worth in a few years and in a much, much stronger position than it will be if they're allowed straight back in. let's face it folks the new group in control of the Newco are in it for the cash, the club will be back into debt within weeks if it isn't already. Is that really what rangers fans want?

Out of europe for 3 years from what I hear so where's the money to come from to fund SPL quality players? Better to sell off, take division 3 and fight back up or hope for a foreign millionaire to throw money at them, but then again those millionaires have had the chance and nobody with financial clout appeared.
 
So the SPL fixtures are out and it loks like the SPL want us in look at this little trio of fixtures.

Dec 15th
Ross County v Club 12

Dec 22nd
ICT v Club 12

Dec 26th
Club 12 v Celtic.

Have us travelling all over the place then play you know who!
 
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From Daily Mail

Sky has never, ever discussed pulling out of covering Scottish football,’ he said.
'We have not discussed that possibility, either with the SPL or any other footballing authority. Nor has that been on the agenda for consideration within Sky, despite all the problems and difficulties being faced by Scottish football at present.
'If Rangers are not in the SPL, that would change things for us, naturally. It would leave a quality hole in Scotland’s top division. Competition would deteriorate and, in that event, we would have to renegotiate.
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Will be here but on reduced rates. How reduced is anyones guess. I'd guess at a %age of the existing 65 million deal.
 
Sky confirm they wont out without Rangers, which is where most of the concern has been, cant see any other reason to keep them in the SPL.

"We have not discussed that possibility, either with the SPL or any other footballing authority. Nor has that been on the agenda for consideration within Sky, despite all the problems and difficulties being faced by Scottish football at present."

'If Rangers are not in the SPL, that would change things for us, naturally. It would leave a quality hole in Scotland’s top division. Competition would deteriorate and, in that event, we would have to renegotiate."

‘But let us be very clear — we have always tried to be supportive of Scottish football and have never made any negative noises or sent any negative messages."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...Sky-wont-pull-plug-TV-deal.html#ixzz1y8gvGYRL

Pipped me to the post McMav!

Yeah, who knows, Celtic will be the main losers, without the duopoly the existing clubs can force through a equal split of money.
 
They wont drop that much, 30% or so id guess, they dont want to screw Scotland over for when Rangers are back in the big league if voted out.

Celtic as I have said all along will be the biggest losers financially with Rangers out the league, the first season they might rumble along but if Rangers are in division3, then years 2 and 3 the fans are going to vote with their feet, you already see it when they play the diddy clubs in the league, a good chunk of their support dont bother to turn up even when they have tickets.
 
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