The Rangers Saga and Fallout Thread

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McMav said:
Actually if Rangers are voted back in then the 11-1 voting structure would remain unless Rangers voted against it. They have to get a vote of 11-1 to change that vote. Clever eh?? You have to wonder why these chairmen of the other clubs agreed to it in the first place. Oh yes they wanted the money.

I hope Rangers are using this as a bargaining tool to get back in however even if we dont I fully expect Celtic to be ****** over as whoever comes up will vote yes and Celtic will lose all their power. That will be an interesting vote. Especially if the 11 other club call a vote for shared gate receipts.
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Probably why the Celtic chairman hasn't been at any of the meetings of the smaller clubs yet still invited? It's looking like an 8-4 vote required for the newco to be in the SPL but with the way things are going it's looking unlikely. The Old Firm had them over a barrel with the TV money and now the other clubs see their only chance of major change in the game.
 
chameleon said:
There's a technical arguement to be had regarding the transfer ban. As it was the old co that got the ban, how does it apply to the newco if the sins of the old company, in theory, can't be punished by taking it out on the new company? Also if that is the case then surely they should be treated as any other newco coming into the league by coming in at the very bottom and working their way up.

I see pretty much all the SPL chairmen are very much hedging their bets with the newco vote. I wonder just how many of them WILL listen to the voices of their fans? They have been pretty vocal so far. Anyone would think they don't even LIKE Rangers for some reason?
I guess if they aren't in the SPL, the veto of the old firm will obviously be dead n buried. So from that point of view, it would be in Celtics interest to keep Rangers in the SPL (not that they will get to keep it after all this anyway.)
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I believe the newco aren't applying for admission to the SPL they are trying to get oldco's share in the SPL transfered to them. With the share goes the punishment I would imagine.
 
That sounds a right legal mess then, as they still have to address the alternative punishment. Will they only do that after the vote on keeping them in the SPL? Also if the PFA is right and the players are free to hop it under TUPE rules, will they even have a team in time for the start of the season? It's only about 6 weeks away innit?
 
chameleon said:
That sounds a right legal mess then, as they still have to address the alternative punishment. Will they only do that after the vote on keeping them in the SPL? Also if the PFA is right and the players are free to hop it under TUPE rules, will they even have a team in time for the start of the season? It's only about 6 weeks away innit?
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If they are in SPL I believe most players will transfer over. If not who knows.
 
chameleon said:
That sounds a right legal mess then, as they still have to address the alternative punishment. Will they only do that after the vote on keeping them in the SPL? Also if the PFA is right and the players are free to hop it under TUPE rules, will they even have a team in time for the start of the season? It's only about 6 weeks away innit?
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It's sounding more like a negotation tactic to force through changes if Rangers are wanting to be voted into the SPL. Whether or not the transfer ban (or new punishment) would still apply remains to be seen though I'd think the SPL would be keen for it to be sorted so that FIFA don't get involved.

The SPL starts on 4th August though clubs can delay it due to friendlies.
 
afraser2k said:
It's sounding more like a negotation tactic to force through changes if Rangers are wanting to be voted into the SPL. Whether or not the transfer ban (or new punishment) would still apply remains to be seen though I'd think the SPL would be keen for it to be sorted so that FIFA don't get involved.

The SPL starts on 4th August though clubs can delay it due to friendlies.
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No they cant. They are I believe allowed 1 friendly like Celtic in USA on 11th. the League still starts on the 4th.
 
McMav said:
Funny only place I read 6 million was in the papers with no quotes other than the usual "We believe". I'll wait to find the actualy outcome and I fully expect the amount not to be disclosed.
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I wouldnt trust a thing the Record or Sun says on anything, the nonsense spouted even recently about a sky insider saying there was no deal just goes to show they have interest in only selling papers, not telling the truth.
 
Metalface Mark said:
I wouldnt trust a thing the Record or Sun says on anything, the nonsense spouted even recently about a sky insider saying there was no deal just goes to show they have interest in only selling papers, not telling the truth.
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Yup I'm sure a businessman like McColl will be conducting his business in private.
 
Metalface Mark said:
I wouldnt trust a thing the Record or Sun says on anything, the nonsense spouted even recently about a sky insider saying there was no deal just goes to show they have interest in only selling papers, not telling the truth.
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Funny how Jim Traynor's been quiet since the statement from Sky. ;)

Edit: Just up on BBC that Walter Smith has withdrawn his bid saying "good luck" to Green.
 
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Mr.E. said:
If Green doesn't want to sell or is asking for too much there's not a lot anyone can do.
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Indeed. He better have a magic wand to get the fans onside and quick.

Perhaps name your consortium members might be a starting point.

However if Ally leaves now then Green is dead in the water.

Interesting few days ahead me thinkks
 
Could be connected or could just be coincidence but 5 directors are leaving Aberdeen FC.

Possibly a breakdown about what to Vote with regards to The Rangers?

or cost cutting for a few years without The Rangers being in the SPL
 
We can call them Tax Dodgers FC if you like. WATP = We Avoid Tax Payment. Oh, and while your average Rangers fan continually bangs on about now walking away. Mr Dignity aka Watty Smith has done just that.
 
Well he's not walking away, he wasnt involved to walk away.

I think Smith knows that if the fans dont back Green, they can pick it up for a song, if they buy now before the fans have had a chance to destroy Green, they will be forced to spend big money to save them.

Green's a relatively old guy, if Rangers goto the third, then the club will be devalued and they can get it cheaper than they hoped. Im almost certain these guys will be back in.

I dont think Smith is the answer for Rangers anyway, he's part of the problem that created the mess Rangers got into by requesting and spending the money.
 
eddiemcgarrigle said:
We can call them Tax Dodgers FC if you like. WATP = We Avoid Tax Payment. Oh, and while your average Rangers fan continually bangs on about now walking away. Mr Dignity aka Watty Smith has done just that.
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Ok I'll feed the troll...

Walter wasn't employed by the club so he didn't walk away. :rolleyes:
 
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