The Rangers Saga and Fallout Thread

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I choose to disagree - I feel that if Rangers had not caused it, they would not have had to precide over, what is an impossible situation. There are only ever going to be losers when something like this happens

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But McMav is right, there are serious questions to be asked of all parties involved, especially Doncaster at the SPL and Regan at the SFA over their handling of the fiasco.
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doopydug said:
I choose to disagree - I feel that if Rangers had not caused it, they would not have had to precide over, what is an impossible situation. There are only ever going to be losers when something like this happens
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When things go **** up, it's when these guys are supposed to demonstrate their leadership. They completely failed at that - even as far as to try and make deals behind closed doors that would have overriden the wishes of their own member clubs and fans. They failed to comprehend the consequences of what was going on, instead delaying decisions to the point that there was little alternative options available because it was too late. They even failed to carryout a proper investigation into Whyte himself during the Rangers takeover and, when pointed out that he might be a bit dodgy their investigation was essentially to ask him, "are you a bit dodgy?" Oddly enough he said no. And we're still now waiting on SFA membership to be given because the SPL are still butting their nose in where it's none of their business anymore. It's been a complete shambles from start to finish, Rangers may have caused it, but the SPL/SFA incompetence has greatly escalated it.
 
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When things go **** up, it's when these guys are supposed to demonstrate their leadership. They completely failed at that - even as far as to try and make deals behind closed doors that would have overriden the wishes of their own member clubs and fans. They failed to comprehend the consequences of what was going on, instead delaying decisions to the point that there was little alternative options available because it was too late. They even failed to carryout a proper investigation into Whyte himself during the Rangers takeover and, when pointed out that he might be a bit dodgy their investigation was essentially to ask him, "are you a bit dodgy?" Oddly enough he said no. And we're still now waiting on SFA membership to be given because the SPL are still butting their nose in where it's none of their business anymore. It's been a complete shambles from start to finish, Rangers may have caused it, but the SPL/SFA incompetence has greatly escalated it.
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I agree with this. I think some of the clubs were trying to be seen to be saying one thing while another thing happened - in other words some of the clubs wanted Rangers in SFL1 but wanted to look as if it was against their wishes. The leadership of Scottish football decided that was the best option and they tried to wrangle it through. It failed because not all the clubs were willing and because there was a huge backlash from fans which caused clubs to change their opinion.

Instead they should have gathered the options, spelled out the consequences of each choice and had the clubs decide months ago when Rangers were in administration what would happen. If they'd been open and honest about it from the start then they'd not be getting the blame.
 
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When things go **** up, it's when these guys are supposed to demonstrate their leadership. They completely failed at that - even as far as to try and make deals behind closed doors that would have overriden the wishes of their own member clubs and fans. They failed to comprehend the consequences of what was going on, instead delaying decisions to the point that there was little alternative options available because it was too late. They even failed to carryout a proper investigation into Whyte himself during the Rangers takeover and, when pointed out that he might be a bit dodgy their investigation was essentially to ask him, "are you a bit dodgy?" Oddly enough he said no. And we're still now waiting on SFA membership to be given because the SPL are still butting their nose in where it's none of their business anymore. It's been a complete shambles from start to finish, Rangers may have caused it, but the SPL/SFA incompetence has greatly escalated it.
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Can't really disagree with any of that. The whole holler than though from the Celtic sport makes me sick. At least we will have The REAL Old Firm games when we play Queens Park. I for one are glad we are no longer linked with them from the east end. Away and but a season ticket doopy I asses your chairman has been begging.
 
Coisty makes some good points in this BBC story here. However the one that I question is him saying it's down to 10 months of mismanagement.

It isn't, although it kind of is.

The mismanagement happened under Murray's regime. He ran up massive debts (through tax dodges) and finally ran away by selling the club to someone he knew was a crook. That was what went wrong at Rangers, the 10 months of mismanagement was a direct result of that, not the cause of the problems.

However if we turn the clock back a year... Let's say Murray sells the club to Douglas Park, who is the head of a consortium of several Scottish businessmen. Let's say Parky (that would inevitably become his moniker) goes to Lloyds of London and takes out an insurance policy for 10mil against the tax case being lost. Problem solved. Rangers continue on, and none of this would have happened.

I can't help but notice that all the rest of the hostility toward Rangers is on the back of the administration/liquidation thing, without that the rest would stay buried.

Does that make it unfair? I'm not really sure. What I am sure about, however, is that you can't change history, and that going back in time looking at the contracts submitted to the SPL isn't worthwhile, it's not a massive deal in my opinion, and not only that but Scottish football leadership is trying to scam Rangers into agreeing to accept a punishment which may or may not be ridiculous (I wouldn't trust them either), starting the league and then slapping the punishment on later when it's too late to object. Which is just same way everything else has been done.

It boils down to the what Ally said about the SPL wanting Rangers' fan's money.
 
chameleon said:
Any commentary on the radio?
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Jim Spence usually gets in on the action when an Angus team is involved. Pretty sure its on radio Scotland. There is media tent erected at the trinity road end. The glebe was looking yesterday. Going to be a mental atmosphere today :-D
 
So this game is going to be on the hoocter choocter channel? Alba? No way! 168 3pm. This is going to be hard to watch. More so in SD.
 
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