The rise of AMD

[TrojanWhore]

Dunno mate tbh, but spent a while trying to find 6-32 x 35mm screws for my rad. Ended up getting easily available 30mm and if they won't work, I'll have to find some 5-10mm ones and mount the fans on te other side

 

[WARburton]

if you cant find a screw on ebay, nobody makes it lol

 

[LePhuronn]

Cheers @TrojanWhore but I got it sorted a while back. It was weird in that for the longest time I just couldn't find a damn thing, then suddenly the Rainforest was flooded with them.

if you cant find a screw on ebay, nobody makes it lol

You'd be surprised how small the selection is for black UNC screws that aren't Philips or pozi-drive

 

[Deathjester]

So I've had a busy few days; children's birthday parties, hockey and a few other bits. But I've just been making fan cables in my down time.
I've got 2 left to do and a couple of internal USB cables to do then we're done for wires...
Unless I do the 12VHPWR cable; However once I get my hands on a 5090 I'm going to do some testing with the stock cables to start off with; before I start messing around with anything else.
More than likely I'll under volt by 20%ish and do a slight overclock, which should workout about stock performance.

I'm still torn between the Gigabyte Auros WB Waterforce and the MSI Suprim with aftermarket water block.
The liquid metal and thermal gel are putting me off replacing the stock cooler tho, which is why I'm really tempted by the pre-installed Gigabyte.

 

[LePhuronn]

The liquid metal and thermal gel are putting me off replacing the stock cooler tho

Isn't that only the FE though? I've not been paying much attention tbh so would have missed liquid metal being used on board partner coolers.

I'm really tempted by the pre-installed Gigabyte

Oh I wouldn't, not after the entire aluminium block fiasco.

 

[Deathjester]

Isn't that only the FE though? I've not been paying much attention tbh so would have missed liquid metal being used on board partner coolers.


Oh I wouldn't, not after the entire aluminium block fiasco.

As long as the aluminium isn't part of the water loop then it's fine. The new Optimus block uses an aluminium shell over acetal for most of the block, with a nickel coated copper cold plate.

I know that the Auros range uses liquid metal; but I did see (about 2 hours after my post) that Optimus are doing a waterblock for the PNY 5090. So now I have no idea what to do.

 

[LePhuronn]

The aluminium was in contact with the water, that's the issue. Absolute stink kicked up about their entire 3000 series Waterforce cards dissolving, and nobody trusted them again.

Also pre-blocked cards don't have much resale value. You may lose money on the waterblock should you come to sell, but the majority investment is on the GPU, so slap the air cooler back on and you're good. So personally I'd go aftermarket GPU block.

Can't remember where I saw it, but somebody's done a teardown of the 5090 FE and replaced the liquid metal with regular TIM and - to the shock of nobody - performance was unaffected. So it's entirely possible that Nvidia put liquid metal on their FE as part of its insane overengineering, and AIBs went "oh OK, we can do the same and charge extra because it's premium", not because the cooling solution requires it.

 

[Deathjester]

The aluminium was in contact with the water, that's the issue. Absolute stink kicked up about their entire 3000 series Waterforce cards dissolving, and nobody trusted them again.

Also pre-blocked cards don't have much resale value. You may lose money on the waterblock should you come to sell, but the majority investment is on the GPU, so slap the air cooler back on and you're good. So personally I'd go aftermarket GPU block.

Can't remember where I saw it, but somebody's done a teardown of the 5090 FE and replaced the liquid metal with regular TIM and - to the shock of nobody - performance was unaffected. So it's entirely possible that Nvidia put liquid metal on their FE as part of its insane overengineering, and AIBs went "oh OK, we can do the same and charge extra because it's premium", not because the cooling solution requires it.

Well I guess it's just a case of waiting and seeing what comes into stock.

 

[Deathjester]

Waiting for my order from OCUK today; got fresh Mayhem's XT1 coolant, and a few other bits for my new home server that I'm planning on building.

It should arrive in the next couple of hours.

Other than 1 USB cable, I think that the wires are completely done now. So I'm working on routing all of those and I'll post some pictures later; the final rebuild won't take place until Thursday evening when I have at least some idea on the state of play with the 50XX series GPUs.
I have a feeling that I'll be installing the CPU loop and leaving the GPU on air cooling for a little while to ensure that everything is fine and working as expected; but we'll see.

 

[jabski]

cables look good mate. Sounds a good idea to do the cpu loop first

 

[Deathjester]

Ok, MSI 5090 on pre-oder, along with AlphaCool block.

Since it's a 2-12 week lead time, I'll be flushing and rebuilding the system tonight.

Maybe a change of plan here; I'll see what happens since it's been updated to 31st Jan - 4th of Feb