The rise of OnlyFans

Your very last sentence. The people screaming "sex work is real work" is other women of questionable morals. Any guy that would say that would either get ridiculed or be called a pervert.

You're misunderstanding or failing to read what I'm saying.

I was being very specific in my wording, there's a certain amount of what I can only describe as "grooming" going on when it relates to a rise in under age girls aiming to become OF models. While you see the "barely legal" stuff in porn, OF has normalised some things to the point where there's a very open element of people supporting said (kids) turning to that sort of work immediately when it's legal. I also never stated it was only men, but frankly when it comes to the kids it often is greasy middle aged perverted guys who are all for that particular facet of the current trend. While some women generally advocate for the validity of sex work, I far more rarely see them suggesting it as a career choice to children.

What adults do is entirely on them, if women decide to become porn stars or sex workers that's ultimately their choice and you can apply any opinion to those people you want.

I take an issue with how a certain element is supporting it as the way to go for people the moment they're of legal age, be they male or female and despite my (anecdotal) evidence it's largely men in that particular situation.

Generally speaking for adults? I don't care as long as they're not hurting anyone or forcing their beliefs on others. As I mentioned, I absolutely see it as a red flag from a dating perspective (And before @hurfdurf pops in again, yes I have been approached by a couple of women who had OF) because my values would not match with the person. I'm a very private person in general, and I feel that some things are ultimately private between myself and my partner. You know what? There's women out there that share those ideals, I have zero desire to shame or push my opinions on women that don't. They have their journeys to take, I suspect some will regret those choices in the end but I'm not going to try and control their lives.
 
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You're misunderstanding or failing to read what I'm saying.

I was being very specific in my wording, there's a certain amount of what I can only describe as "grooming" going on when it relates to a rise in under age girls aiming to become OF models. While you see the "barely legal" stuff in porn, OF has normalised some things to the point where there's a very open element of people supporting said (kids) turning to that sort of work immediately when it's legal. I also never stated it was only men, but frankly when it comes to the kids it often is greasy middle aged perverted guys who are all for that particular facet of the current trend. While some women generally advocate for the validity of sex work, I far more rarely see them suggesting it as a career choice to children.

What adults do is entirely on them, if women decide to become porn stars or sex workers that's ultimately their choice and you can apply any opinion to those people you want.

I take an issue with how a certain element is supporting it as the way to go for people the moment they're of legal age, be they male or female and despite my (anecdotal) evidence it's largely men in that particular situation.

Generally speaking for adults? I don't care as long as they're not hurting anyone or forcing their beliefs on others. As I mentioned, I absolutely see it as a red flag from a dating perspective (And before @hurfdurf pops in again, yes I have been approached by a couple of women who had OF) because my values would not match with the person. I'm a very private person in general, and I feel that some things are ultimately private between myself and my partner. You know what? There's women out there that share those ideals, I have zero desire to shame or push my opinions on women that don't. They have their journeys to take, I suspect some will regret those choices in the end but I'm not going to try and control their lives.
There is no grooming going on. Older women see how easy it is to groom and exploit men for profit so they are encouraging younger women to do the same.

You are going through a lot of mental gymnastics to avoid facing the simple facts of the matter. If you had ever come across a man encouraging an underage girl to open an only fans when they turn 18 as you claim then you should have reported them to the police.
 
There is no grooming going on. Older women see how easy it is to groom and exploit men for profit so they are encouraging younger women to do the same.

You are going through a lot of mental gymnastics to avoid facing the simple facts of the matter. If you had ever come across a man encouraging an underage girl to open an only fans when they turn 18 as you claim then you should have reported them to the police.

Okay buddy, you enjoy your evening! You're clearly on a crusade I want no part of, I have a pretty good relationship with most of the women in my life and refuse to engage in some sort of us against them nonsense.
 
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Okay buddy, you enjoy your evening! You're clearly on a crusade I want no part of, I have a pretty good relationship with most of the women in my life and refuse to engage in some sort of us against them nonsense.
There is no us against them. There is only holding people accountable for their actions regardless of their gender.
 
Dont have an issue with it as long as its not hurting anyone, sex sells, always has always will.
Although I wouldn't date someone who did OF
 
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Dont have an issue with it as long as its not hurting anyone, sex sells, always has always will.

You have not seen how a parent or both parents doing OF effects their kids & other family members :mad:
Specially at school when the other kids find out

Some these people that do OF really no care who it effects or who they hurt like even if it there own children there hurting
It only about how much easy money they can get.
 
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Dont have an issue with it as long as its not hurting anyone, sex sells, always has always will.
Although I wouldn't date someone who did OF

Way I see it is that their 'value' goes up in one area while diminishing it in another. It's a trade-off that's entirely down to them.

Issue I have though is when there's the shocked Pikachu face when they are told of the people that wouldn't date them because of the above. That level of delusion irks me.
 
Don't have any issue with OF. Their body, their choice and it's far better they're the ones making most of the money rather than the owners, mainly men, of glossy mags and porn studios like was the case in the past.
Yeah, now it's mostly just one dude benefiting. He's only taking 20% though! ;)


bbc said:
OnlyFans' profits have skyrocketed in the past year and news that its owner earned more than $300m (£238m) in dividends has ignited fresh questions about the pornography mogul.
 
You have not seen how a parent or both parents doing OF effects their kids & other family members :mad:
Specially at school when the other kids find out

Some these people that do OF really no care who it effects or who they hurt like even if it there own children there hurting
It only about how much easy money they can get.

It's soul selling.

They're is a clear trade off. It's why we used to be taught it at school/Sunday school. But those values have gone, so now it's open season to make deals with the devil.

I truly feel for women who convince themselves this is a good way to utilse their value without considering how it will effect their future life's.
 
Statistically I imagine there is a some older users on this forum, that have a daughter who probably does OF and keeps it hidden.
 
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There is grooming going on at a peer pressure level.

I think corn plays into the same trend as the women who are obsessively taking images of themselves and posting them for approval of people online.

The underage aspect of this is very worrying. We know from the police that most illegal underage images are being purposely self generated.

Adults abandoning morality is upto them. But they shouldn't be surprised at how them normalising such behaviour reduces the morality for other people who are influenced by them.
 
Body Builders / Models?

Blah blah blah, I'm not even going to bother quoting the other posts either.

I'm pretty sex positive as a person, I have non of the Anglo saxon obsession with nudity or with people enjoying sex.

But sex is still sex and its not the same as a model or bodybuilder. A society which devalues absolutely everything cheapens and hardens people. You only have to see the pervasiveness and depravity of pornography and its effects on people. It's a far cry away from nude models or the occasional dirty magazine.

Unless you're a freak you'd be pretty upset if your daughter (and son but let's face 99% of men don't have such an option haha) decided to whore herself out in favor of an honest living. It limits their options of finding a decent partner and having a family life.

I think a deeper reflection of this is probably our constantly "online" status where young people are not afforded the luxury of doing stupid **** and having it forgotten. There will be a lot of people that will regret their stupid ****, as its very different from experimenting at university or doing things which are easier to isolate in a time and place.

Then again it's 2pm in some random **** hole in Deutschland and im already utterly arseholed on gin (just quoting it's actually just beer) so probably not making much sense.
 
If you think there's nothing wrong with that then I have deep concerns.

Actively supporting children in this context on the basis they'll be legal one day is beyond reprehensible.
you have concerns w/ the law saying you can't do something until you're age "x", and then someone doing that something on the day they reach that age?
 
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