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The RX Vega 56 Owners Thread

It is struggling in some newer games




Yeah it is but like said before, its either titles favouring nvidia cards or they are bloated new titles that will be aimed at £350+ cards which have been released in the past year. There's thousands of other games to base the 1440p performance and from what I could see the vega maintains over 60fps on them..
 
Or if you want you can use image sharpening thing and drop ur res from 1440p to 1080p and should look about as good in texture detail, not sure if certain dx like 11 are usable this way but does for dx9 and 12 and vulkan i think tho not 100% sure. I tried it with x4 foundations and seems to look good still and a healthy bump in fps on stations and less of the gpu struggling at 100% usage.
 
You dont really need to drop the res though for over 90% of the games. Its just natural progression of the hardware creeping along (vega 56 > 5700) and the big budget titles releasing the game to deadline then let you beta test it.
 
...big budget titles releasing the game to deadline then let you beta test it.

All for the low low price of a kidney and half yer liver!

I game on a 144Hz 1440p panel with my Vega 56 (undervolt, core@1650, vram@980) and, after a year of owning the card, I'm still very pleased with it.
 
Its not the same money..
I can get roughly asrock for 220euros.
Powercolor one is 250 pound plus shipping to Croatia
witch doesnt exist!
fair enough, didn't know you were pricing from somewhere other than OcUK. irrespective, personally i'd not go with the asrock, it's a reference blower which usually means hot and loud - although that can be improved upon with a bit of tweaking/undervolting but i'd much prefer one of the 'after market' alternatives.
 
I'm sorry I didn't realize right away that this is forum plus store..
Yes I realize what your'e saying..
But other are 50+ euros and I don't have stretch budget right now..
 
Yes I remember chatting Dan, although I forget if we chatted about your CPU though. Having only 4 threads will hit framerate as a whole depending on the game As you can see in the video below (using a Vega 56 with a Ryzen 2200g and Ryzen 2600 - The 2200g is faster than a 2500k despite it's lower clockspeed). This was my upgrade path. I actually thought I had a faulty Vega with the fps I was getting when I initially paired it with a 2200g but I replaced it with a 2600 and FPS have pretty much doubled in some open world games


It depends on the game but as you can see with Kingdom Come Deliverance it bottlenecks heavily at medium settings. If I remember rightly even with the settings amped up settings the CPU bottlenecks it heavily.

Also if you have limited threads leaving browsers and other programs running in the background will see you get worse performance than in the video. I was actually getting lows in the 30s-40s with Just Cause 3, which never happened after the upgrade

Looking at these videos the 2600k should perform quite well once overclocked, the problem is I'd like to see him use more open world benchmarks because it is likely to suffer with these


As you can see in this hardware unboxed video - the 2600k will perform great in racing games but will suffer in Assassin's Creed, Shadow of the Tomb Raider and Hitman when scenes get busier and Kingdom Come Deliverance will similarly be hit


So you will still be CPU bottlenecked in some games and it'll be more noticable in busy areas of open world games. But in racing games you'll barely notice the difference.

In this video you're comparable CPU is a 2400g, which is a little faster but similarly has 4 cores/8 threads. So I'd imagine the performance upgrade should be similar to the 2200g to 2400g comparisons below


As for long term replacement I'd recomend holding on until Ryzen 2700 goes end of life and drops to around £100 (happened with the 1700) or wait until the 4000 series release when the 3600 probably drops to around that price. Both will give you a nice upgrade in open world games for around £240 for CPU/Ram/Mobo

One takeaway is if you upgraded to 1440p instead of getting a new CPU/system you'd likely suffer no FPS hit

Seen all the posts previous matey, and I am happy to lose some ground and accept my 2500K is not the best CPU to be running with a Vega 56. Bear in mind however my 2500k 4.9ghz overclock (with only 1.37 vcore might I brag lol) only puts me are roughly a 20% CPU bottleneck. Its a solid cpu with its overclock for circa 60fps gaming. I have however just in the last hour or so dropped a 2600K into my system and am overclocking and stress testing to as close to 4.9ghz I can get. My “new” 2600k spat its dummy out and froze my system with my 2500k overclock settings in less than a second. I am at 4.7ghz reasonably sure of stability atm but with a much higher 1.42 vcore. At 4.7 ghz overclock on the 2600k, that puts me circa sub 10% bottleneck on my cpu against my Vega 56. I am happy with that to tide me over for several months until cyberpunk 2077 comes out and I know what new CPU, motherboard and memory I need to run the game. I am assuming at ryzen 3600, with 3600mhz 16gb memory, and a B450 MB plus my Vega 56, but who knows there is talk the next gen consoles might have 8 core 16 thread cpu's and that will change the PC gaming specs somewhat. Anyway, yes mate like you say..even the 2600k struggles in the likes of Assassins Creed, but that's an outlier as far as I am concerned, never liked the game. If my 60 quid 2600k can get me a boost in most games for the next several months before a costly upgrade, I will be happy.
 
What games are you playing to get such low, 1% lows?i have my memory at 910mhz and core at stock with an undervolt. I play everything at 1440p, games including the new COD,Rust, the division and a couple more. None of which ever go to a peasantry 30fps.
I was running my mouth trying to make a point after a few drinks mate. Only a couple of games like Kingdom Come etc...I ran a few benchmarks are while back on this thread..have a look
 
It'll hit everything to do with your frame rate.
I wouldn't dream of using a 2500K with a Vega 56.
I would prefer not to be running my Vega with a 2500k neither. Bear in mind though mate, some of us have other things going on in life and more paramount financial priorities etc. I for one upgrade my gaming PC's sporadically as an ongoing concern. My 2500k custom water loop OC to 4.9ghz was paired with a GTX 970, 8GB of 1866 ram running on a p8p67, built in Jan / feb 2017. I upgraded my GTX 970 to my Vega 56 pulse circa feb this year, a bargain from OCUK clearance with 6 month warrenty for £200. I Have just dropped a 2600K cpu into my system to tide me over the next several months / year, and will be looking to upgrade to a ryzen 3600 with 16gb 3600mhz memory on a 450 motherboard. Reality is barring the odd few games like kingdom come deliverance, an overclocked 2500k is still viable for circa 60fps gaming.
 
I'm sorry I didn't realize right away that this is forum plus store..
Yes I realize what your'e saying..
But other are 50+ euros and I don't have stretch budget right now..
It’s cool dude. If you’re happy enough with a bit of excess noise (potentially) and tweaking with the vega to get the best from it you’ll be good but just don’t be expecting a whisper quiet experience with the Asrock.
 
Your 1% lows are completely to do with your cpu, at least for KCD. That is a VERY CPU demanding title.
Agreed mate. Howver a 2500k clocked to 4.9ghz is still an acceptable cpu for circa 60fps gaming in at least most games, and being mindfull of CPU pertinant game settings. I have however just dropped a 2600k into my system tonight in the hope of tiding me over another several months. I think I may have topped out at 4.7 ghz unfortunatly however, the cpu needs quite a bit more vcore than my 2500k for a lesser overclock and is hitting 92 degrees on 2 cores under prime stress. Its only from an office PC as per the eBay listing and the clear circle line on the heat spreader indicates it has indeed probably been sat under a standard intel cooler probably running spreadsheets and internet its whole life. I am gonna run it hard and fast and hope to get close to a year out of it.
 
Ok, so for anyone that is interested. My 2500k overclocked to 4.9ghz with my vega 56 undervolted and overclocked to 1637 core and 945 hbm ran shadow of the tomb raider high settings 1920 x 1080 benchmark at 84fps average. My new 2600k clocked at 4.7ghz with the same gpu overclocks was 95fps. So going from a 2500k to a 2600k even with a 200mhz slower overclock deffo does make a difference. All with anti-aliasing set to smaat2x. I just ran the benchmark on highest settings with 86fps average. The results as per the in game benchmark result bottom right table as follows:

FPS--------CPU Game--------CPU Render--------GPU
Min--------71-------------------71---------------75
Ma---------160-----------------250--------------146
Average---107-----------------116----------------94
95%-------79-------------------75----------------80

The min frame rates are better 4.9ghz 2500k vs 4.7ghz 2600k and the benchmark runs noticeably smoother. I have several other 2500k 4.9ghz game benchmark results hand written on the back cardboard of one of my daughters colouring books. I will compare tomorrow when I have more time.
 
I was running my mouth trying to make a point after a few drinks mate. Only a couple of games like Kingdom Come etc...I ran a few benchmarks are while back on this thread..have a look

Fair enough mate no harm, by the looks of your replies its the CPU causing the issues.
 
Fair enough mate no harm, by the looks of your replies its the CPU causing the issues.
Deffo the CPU in a slack handful of games like Kingdom Come and Metro Ex mate...I was not willing to drop circa 400 quid just to upgrade the majority of my rig to bring my 1% lows in a few games up from 30's and 40's. Most games I play were fine on my 2500k @ 4.9ghz. I am however impressed with the 2600k I have dropped in my rig tonight. Running at 4.7ghz, Shadow of the Tomb Raider is 11fps higher and the lows are much higher. Far cry 5 was also noticeably better performance. Both games maintained above 60 frames per second at 1920 x 1080 highest settings.
 
kingdom come deliverance vega 56, open console command and type " r_BatchType = 1 " (no quotes) if anyone is interested. I have mentioned this in previous posts, cryengine works **** with vega. My Vega 56 core clock sits at circa 70% at best with low fps. This command fixes it.
 
Deffo the CPU in a slack handful of games like Kingdom Come and Metro Ex mate...I was not willing to drop circa 400 quid just to upgrade the majority of my rig to bring my 1% lows in a few games up from 30's and 40's. Most games I play were fine on my 2500k @ 4.9ghz. I am however impressed with the 2600k I have dropped in my rig tonight. Running at 4.7ghz, Shadow of the Tomb Raider is 11fps higher and the lows are much higher. Far cry 5 was also noticeably better performance. Both games maintained above 60 frames per second at 1920 x 1080 highest settings.

Ah thats a decent result then, the 2600k was that the i7? to be fair, for its day the 2500k was the best pound for pound processor. i remember getting back into gaming when it came out but wasnt quite willing to drop the money on one. i ended up with an FX8120 which for all its faults, is still going today and has trickled down a few friends who want a taste in gaming.
 
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