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The RX Vega 64 Owners Thread
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P6-1.150V
P7-1.175V
HBM2- .950V
Core- 1,820Mhz
HBM2 1,035Mhz (Thats just as far as I pushed it.. it may go higher?)
Molded Package, Samsung HBM2
I am just glad I got an XFX model. For the longest time I could only find Sapphire or Gigabyte models but the GB models were generally above what i'd pay. (900ish USD)
As for Sapphire- Me and the company I work for blacklisted Sapphire for completely and utterly abysmal customer support. (One of their tech support managers actually dox'd me on their forums even..) So I have skipped over good deals on AMD hardware because of brand distrust on the AIB side.
As a result, we have formed a direct relationship with AMD on all our future datacenter needs. (From GPUs to CPUs). AMD's customer support has been nothing short of stellar so cudo's there on their business support side.
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Soldato
It'll go way higher mate, 1050hbm is considered the default average overclock by many, 1100 should definitely be possible, I've been ruining 1100 from day 1. Some even get to 1150 but I wouldn't recommend pushing it that high. 1750/1100 is more than fast enough anyway.
I used to run 1800/1100 but now I've got over the original benching and excited overclocking phase, i now run 1700/1080 for gaming with much lower voltage. It' a super fast card.
I am just going to run it at or near stock factory maximums for the most part.
Like right now I have it doing F@H at 1,775Mhz @ 1.150V @ 185W GPU Core Power. (Stock "Turbo" mode gets me 235-245W @ 1,752Mhz @ 1.2-1.25V) Or if I just throw voltage at it.. 1,855Mhz Core @ 1.25V = 330-350W GPU Core power.
I would love to get my hands on a 16GB RX Vega though. I mean, I guess I could use HBCC to offset that limit later.. lol
This FX-8320 is really starting to show its age in newer games like Battlefield 1 but BF1 is very well multithreaded so its held its own so far. Was planning on going to TR this year but... RAM prices have kept me back. So may invest in one more upgrade for this AM3+ rig to 16GB RAM then wait for RAM prices to fall back again or a slight drop in price on the sTR4 boards/CPU.
It'd be great if AMD could do a sort of "entry" sTR4 CPU thing. Drop the price of the 1900X to the same as the 1800X and provide that as an "entry" into the sTR4 platform. That way later, if AMD plans on keeping the sTR4 platform going, the user can just drop in a 12nm 16core+ Threadripper later.
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Soldato
Thanks for the reply wattmatt, merry christmas, and message me on trust I want to gift you
Soldato
P6-1.150V
P7-1.175V
HBM2- .950V
Core- 1,820Mhz
HBM2 1,035Mhz (Thats just as far as I pushed it.. it may go higher?)
Molded Package, Samsung HBM2
I am just glad I got an XFX model. For the longest time I could only find Sapphire or Gigabyte models but the GB models were generally above what i'd pay. (900ish USD)
As for Sapphire- Me and the company I work for blacklisted Sapphire for completely and utterly abysmal customer support. (One of their tech support managers actually dox'd me on their forums even..) So I have skipped over good deals on AMD hardware because of brand distrust on the AIB side.
As a result, we have formed a direct relationship with AMD on all our future datacenter needs. (From GPUs to CPUs). AMD's customer support has been nothing short of stellar so cudo's there on their business support side.
That is a whopping overclock, i'm on a 56 with a Lc bios , and it wont go above 1752 core, but will go to 1175 on the hbm, no matter how many volts i throw at it the core wont go higher, it just cries and dies andd my eyes dry and i eat pie.
Soldato
As good as TR or Ryzen is for AMD to get them back in the game, I still don' t think they are good enough for a main gaming system just yet. I'll consider it once they can get close to 5ghz but right now 4/4.1ghz on a best case scenario isn't quite there.
Caporegime
You too mate. Sold my Pro Duo's to make way for Vegas.Thanks for the reply wattmatt, merry christmas, and message me on trust I want to gift you
You really don't need to, but you can trust me if you want.
Yea. These packages are heavily binned. Liquid models get better binned dies.
Well, the source I have on AMD's CPU side told me to "wait for 12nm" that the "results so far were very promising". He gave me some expected clocks but they don't line up with what was "leaked" a few weeks ago.. Bit higher than with 14nm, but power usage is down a-lot.
Soldato
Wouldn't they sort of kill off their own 1800X if they priced the 1900X the same? The 1800X is supposed to be the more affordable mainstream solution and the TR4 is the more extreme platform, which comes with a price premium.
But who cares about power usage? Especially when you've got a GPU sucking ~300W or more.
Not really. The mainboards for sTR4 are more costly. As is the need for quad channel RAM. The entry level to that is still higher. However, it would incentivize more users going to the HEDT platform and offset the price of RAM. So at a later date the users may get an X1950 or whatever future CPUs AMD releases for the platform.
I use a 7980XE
Binned by 8 Pack, thanks mate.
It runs quite happy at 4.8ghz which is not bad for 18/36 cores/threads.
The point I make here is although Ryzen is a very good mainstream range of CPUs AMD have a very long way to go to catch up with intel at the top end.
I could be biased though as my real name is -
Robert Noyce
Google it if you need to.
Which reminds me intel where are the freebees.
Soldato
I get why you want it to be cheaper, not sure why AMD would want to make it cheaper though.
Threadripper probably cost more to make than Ryzen so they'd make less money on it, on the gamble that enough people then goes on to buy a 1920X or 1950X to make it worth it?
I'm not sure AMD make any money on motherboard or RAM sales, so the extra cost of Quad channel RAM or the TR4 motherboard probably doesn't make it to AMD.
The idea is adoption rate. Higher adoption rates mean more companies optimize for AMD. Its a trade-off. Lose a little to gain a lot elsewhere.
Yes, AMD makes money on motherboard sales. They charge license fees for the chipset and socket etc.. and I'd assume they make money on it since I've seen AMD selling the X1900 for as low as $350.
I'm saying the people that get the X1900 are more likely to upgrade to the 12nm parts when they come out. The idea is to space out the cost of upgrades.
Soldato
Well, AMD's marketing department seems to disagree with you and I'd have to guess they know what they're doing more than us.
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Is there a problem with just pushing HBM? The problem is only if you push the voltage right? I'm currently running rock solid 1180 MHz HBM2 @ 1000 mV
Caporegime
I wouldn't worry about overclock in a V64 running an fx83. I'd be more concerned with getting out benched by 290x's
This FX-8320 I have it clocked to 5.2Ghz when I really need the single core performance. 1.48V is what I need to get there. I don't like that kind of heat so I typically keep it at 4.0Ghz @ 1.284V
Caporegime
It doesn't really matter. The FX-83 has such low IPC that you need ridiculous clocks to overcome it.
Honestly. Unless you're gaming at 4k your V64 is so wasted.
Well, it was a big bump from a 780Ti which couldn't even handle playing BF1 at 1080p or do anything decent when it came to rendering. So, its not really a waste as I am getting full use of its DP power.