The RX Vega 64 Owners Thread

[LtMatt]

The only way i can run it in games without these crashes seems to be , custom settings, -5% power limit , then it will work.... lowering the clock speed doesn't fix it, it will still overboost into 1700+ mhz and crash itself
I will have difficulty getting a replacement because no availability ? or because i have an eiswolf on it now, or changed the bios? or all these things lol

Lol, probably all of those things.

Are you sure that lowering clock speed doesn't work? It works here and lowers the maximum boost. Try lowering clock speed and voltage. Just lowering voltage alone will lower clock speed, but not as significantly as lowering clock speed itself.

Once you have the crashed and the tachs light up, you'll need to restart the system as tuning settings in that state is very unreliable.

 

[Illuminist]

Lol, probably all of those things.

Are you sure that lowering clock speed doesn't work? It works here and lowers the maximum boost. Try lowering clock speed and voltage. Just lowering voltage alone will lower clock speed, but not as significantly as lowering clock speed itself.

Once you have the crashed and the tachs light up, you'll need to restart the system as tuning settings in that state is very unreliable.

I have tried setting 1700 or 1600 on the core and 1050mv and leaving the hbm at 945 @910mv and it will still boost to death, its like it suprises itself and wasn't expecting it, even though its doing it to itself.

Setting the -5% works, even at 1700mhz and 1100 hbm it will tick along great as long as the power limit is reduced.. its really weird.

 

[melmac]

Wow I really didn't think anyone paid attention to my posts, you reciting back to me the past shocked me then.

Yes I have fiddled with all the bios's and clocks and hbm and benchmarking. BUT as I stated I have been having problems since day 1.

I will ignore your scathing review of my practices to explain a bit more.

Well, I was interested in Vega cards and kept a close eye on both threads.

I wasn't really judging you, what you do with the card is you business I was just pointing out that you do like you push the card to it's limits.

And come on, be honest, you didn't have any problems with the card until you flashed the 64 BIOS onto it? It was after that you started noticing this over boosting problem in games. Think PUBG was the first game you noticed this on.

 

[LtMatt]

I have tried setting 1700 or 1600 on the core and 1050mv and leaving the hbm at 945 @910mv and it will still boost to death, its like it suprises itself and wasn't expecting it, even though its doing it to itself.

Setting the -5% works, even at 1700mhz and 1100 hbm it will tick along great as long as the power limit is reduced.. its really weird.

Well just do that then.

 

[henson0115]

Your GPU sounds like it is faulty, it should not crash at stock settings. The tach leds thing is i a bug i believe and that happens after a crash, i can repro it by running unstable clocks.

You may have difficulty getting a replacement, so can you settle for lowering clock speed to avoid the crashing, or adding more voltage?

I'm wrapping my Vega's in cotton wool as they are becoming collectors items. I hope they live long and prosperious lives I've undervolted both by -0.050mv - 0.080mv.

if that static dont get them

 

[Trender]

Your GPU sounds like it is faulty, it should not crash at stock settings. The tach leds thing is i a bug i believe and that happens after a crash, i can repro it by running unstable clocks.

You may have difficulty getting a replacement, so can you settle for lowering clock speed to avoid the crashing, or adding more voltage?

I'm wrapping my Vega's in cotton wool as they are becoming collectors items. I hope they live long and prosperious lives I've undervolted both by -0.050mv - 0.080mv.

Please if anyone could help me, I have kinda similar issue as Illumin on my V64, my vega crashes in games, it crashes then all p7 leds on and have to restart whole pc, just mine doesnt overboost, I dont wanna give up my vega 64 air limited edition.

The only way i can run it in games without these crashes seems to be , custom settings, -5% power limit , then it will work.... lowering the clock speed doesn't fix it, it will still overboost into 1700+ mhz and crash itself
I will have difficulty getting a replacement because no availability ? or because i have an eiswolf on it now, or changed the bios? or all these things lol

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I fear mine is faulty and I kinda refuse to give up my vega limited edition, I just wish it isn't faulty. Its been like this since day 1 like months a go.

I pass every 3dmark stress test, every other benchmark like superpostion and all of this ofc is high load and high consuption so I think we can take off my psu is faulty and also my psu is new (EVGA G3 650W).
I pass high load benchs etc withouth problems yet it crashes on games my vega.
I've tried underclock with all sucessful 3dmark stresstest withouth crash and with success and it still crashes in games.
I've tried power save and it still crashes.
I've tried locking max. on min HBM state.Same with core clocks p6 min p7 max and both p7 min/max.
Looks like it crashes more specially with HBCC on. I just don't get how it could be faulty as it doesnt crash on high loads intensive benchmarks. Crashes are randoms, maybe 1 day I don't have any crash and other day I have crash, games whatever could it be League, bf1, cod....
So I tried with my RAM at stock @ 2133 Mhz, it still crashes. I run them usually at 3333 Mhz, my system is a Ryzen 7@ 3.6 and I had a gtx 1080 before withouth crashes nor problems.
I just don't have any more ideas or things to try please. Of course I've always used DDU.
btw how it exactly crash is like this:Screen turns black and turn on (driver crash I think) and have to restart PC with button because it hangs out

 

[melmac]

Have you tried the second BIOS?

 

[lowdog]

From my experience once you start manually trying to overclock + things like putting the system to sleep and screen saver etc the drivers become flaky and the card can perform like craaaap with instability issues.

Fix - clean uninstall the drivers and then re install and test stock, fixed things for me when card starts crashing and playing up.

 

[Trender]

Have you tried the second BIOS?

Yeah I did man it changed nothing , I recorded a vid of a crash I just had btw and with the 2nd bios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vQEtzJo4QU

From my experience once you start manually trying to overclock + things like putting the system to sleep and screen saver etc the drivers become flaky and the card can perform like craaaap with instability issues.

Fix - clean uninstall the drivers and then re install and test stock, fixed things for me when card starts crashing and playing up.

Trust me man I've done that several times, thouth the months I think ive used DDU a hundred, anyways it doesnt happen a day withouth crash.
I've recorded a video of cod ww2 when it crashed, with OSD

It crashes at the end of the video, 7:17
btw how it exactly crash is like this:Screen turns black and turn on (driver crash I think),and now its unresponsive,hangs out, gpu tach leds start turning all on and have to restart PC with button because it hangs out
Also sometimes I get this warning, i guess its because of driver reset:

And another vid:

Yeah Ik im sorry its only CoD but its just the faster game it crashes, it crash withing 15 mins max. mostly with HBCC about all, and recording with OSD.

 

[melmac]

Yeah I did man it changed nothing , I recorded a vid of a crash I just had btw and with the 2nd bios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vQEtzJo4QU

Ok, that's a shame, I was hoping for you that it would be an easy fix.

Are you using any GPU monitoring software? Afterburner? Steam Overlay? etc. If so try turning them off. And some people have had crashes fixed by not using Wattman at all.

Have you an AMD or Intel CPU? I know you are sick to death of DDU. But, it might be worth trying one more time. But, you should also download the AMD uninstaller. Go into safe mode, run that first, don't reboot if it asks. Run DDU and remove all AMD software and reboot. Next you should download and install the latest AMD chipset driver If you have a Ryzen CPU. If not, just go ahead and install the 17.11.1 drivers.

Play games and see if you still get crashes.

If you do, then there is really only two things you can try. Put the card in another PCIe slot to rule out faulty slot. Or try the card in another computer.

Sorry can't be much more help. Maybe AMDMatt might be able to suggest a few things.

 

[lowdog]

Turn HBCC off and try it, I found that setting to be problematic more often than not.

 

[Trender]

Ok, that's a shame, I was hoping for you that it would be an easy fix.

Are you using any GPU monitoring software? Afterburner? Steam Overlay? etc. If so try turning them off. And some people have had crashes fixed by not using Wattman at all.

Have you an AMD or Intel CPU? I know you are sick to death of DDU. But, it might be worth trying one more time. But, you should also download the AMD uninstaller. Go into safe mode, run that first, don't reboot if it asks. Run DDU and remove all AMD software and reboot. Next you should download and install the latest AMD chipset driver If you have a Ryzen CPU. If not, just go ahead and install the 17.11.1 drivers.

Play games and see if you still get crashes.

If you do, then there is really only two things you can try. Put the card in another PCIe slot to rule out faulty slot. Or try the card in another computer.

Sorry can't be much more help. Maybe AMDMatt might be able to suggest a few things.

Yeah I've used in the past hwinfo and now I've used the adrenalin built-in OSD. But I tried now what you said:

Go into safe mode and run AMD Clean up utilitie, dont reboot and run DDU with AMD ofc, then restarted and installed my Ryzen cpu chipset, reboot and installed ur 17.11.1 drivers and reboot. Then went into cod and recorded only with relive(any osd nor whatever) and it crashed in 10 mins. I still have to and Im doing tests withouth Relive, in the past I've tried withouth relive and recording with obs instead but im not really sure as it was kinda month ago but lets see. Later on Ill try on another pci slot.
Yes the game im always using its cod because it crashes faster, other games can take even 1-2 days withouth crash
EDIT:
Did some testing and *looks* like withouth relive and hbcc it doesn't crash. My cod if it crashed at 15-18 mins(-no hbcc and with relive), with hbcc (and always withrelive) it looks like crashed much earlier, like 10 mins(i always test/play with relive+hbcc); but how comes this makes sense relive crashing my entire PC it doesnt makes sense and I had this problem since like 2 month ago when i bought the card

Turn HBCC off and try it, I found that setting to be problematic more often than not.

Yeah I know man I still have to and tomorrow or lateron Ill also do more extensive HBCC off tests, its just withoth HBCC it doesnt crash that fast. But I mean I also thought about it so I asked several vega users that played cod and they told me they play with HBCC without problem (also its a feature of the card tho & shouldnt crash me but even tho i asked them)

 

[Illuminist]

Yeah I've used in the past hwinfo and now I've used the adrenalin built-in OSD. But I tried now what you said:

Go into safe mode and run AMD Clean up utilitie, dont reboot and run DDU with AMD ofc, then restarted and installed my Ryzen cpu chipset, reboot and installed ur 17.11.1 drivers and reboot. Then went into cod and recorded only with relive(any osd nor whatever) and it crashed in 10 mins. I still have to and Im doing tests withouth Relive, in the past I've tried withouth relive and recording with obs instead but im not really sure as it was kinda month ago but lets see. Later on Ill try on another pci slot.
Yes the game im always using its cod because it crashes faster, other games can take even 1-2 days withouth crash
EDIT:
Did some testing and *looks* like withouth relive and hbcc it doesn't crash. My cod if it crashed at 15-18 mins(-no hbcc and with relive), with hbcc (and always withrelive) it looks like crashed much earlier, like 10 mins(i always test/play with relive+hbcc); but how comes this makes sense relive crashing my entire PC it doesnt makes sense and I had this problem since like 2 month ago when i bought the card

Yeah I know man I still have to and tomorrow or lateron Ill also do more extensive HBCC off tests, its just withoth HBCC it doesnt crash that fast. But I mean I also thought about it so I asked several vega users that played cod and they told me they play with HBCC without problem (also its a feature of the card tho & shouldnt crash me but even tho i asked them)

Hello my friend, i feel your pain.

And to @melmac - it makes me feel kinda warm and fuzzy that someone followed my hard work, it actually all started happening when i installed the AIO watercooler.
back to @Trender - That is EXACTLY what happens to mine, and if you look carefully on your first and second video yours does what mine does, at the end of the video see how the watts suddenly go from your 120-150 and spike up to 192w just before you crash? and on the second video you are 94w to max 140w and then right at the end it spikes to 200w and crashes.. this is me.
Thats what mine does also, on all bios's and all settings. It tries to pump extra watts into the card to boost the core and kills itself.

For me . try this, set whatever settings you want in wattmatt but put a -5% on the powerlimit and tell me if it ever crashes
(also mine crashes more easily with hbcc and relive on also but haven't tried to use these since i found a work around will try tonight)
*edit might as well add, that mine also will run any benchmark flawlessly still without crashing at stupid settings, it's only games that make it crash.

 

[melmac]

And to @melmac - it makes me feel kinda warm and fuzzy that someone followed my hard work, it actually all started happening when i installed the AIO watercooler.

Well, actually I was just interested in Vega and wanted to see what actual user opinions were. And You, Matt, Greg and Tony were posting the most info in both threads, and posting detailed results of the things you were trying. So I kept a close eye on the problems, overclocking, successes that you all had with a view to buying one. Which I did.

Games stress cards differently than benchmarks.

Sorry you are having problems, but, at least you found a stable setting that can you can actually play games on.

 

[Shiari]

I made sure my card was operating fine functionally before even considering putting a block on it. If it doesn't work without crashing before you do that chances are you'll still be facing the same issues after, and then you can say bye bye to any chance of an RMA. Water cooling should be done to improve it, not to "fix" it.

 

[Trender]

Hello my friend, i feel your pain.

And to @melmac - it makes me feel kinda warm and fuzzy that someone followed my hard work, it actually all started happening when i installed the AIO watercooler.
back to @Trender - That is EXACTLY what happens to mine, and if you look carefully on your first and second video yours does what mine does, at the end of the video see how the watts suddenly go from your 120-150 and spike up to 192w just before you crash? and on the second video you are 94w to max 140w and then right at the end it spikes to 200w and crashes.. this is me.
Thats what mine does also, on all bios's and all settings. It tries to pump extra watts into the card to boost the core and kills itself.

For me . try this, set whatever settings you want in wattmatt but put a -5% on the powerlimit and tell me if it ever crashes
(also mine crashes more easily with hbcc and relive on also but haven't tried to use these since i found a work around will try tonight)
*edit might as well add, that mine also will run any benchmark flawlessly still without crashing at stupid settings, it's only games that make it crash.

Well thats true I thought so too but i.e at min 2:00 in 2nd video, it goes up to 219 W withouth crash :S
Also yeah I've tried -5% pl and it still crashed, but I've tried "power save" more extensive which is -25% and it crashes

 

[Dicehunter]

I hope AMD manage to sort these supply issues out, I'd like to buy a 3rd party V64 but I'm not paying £899, for that money I may as well put a little extra to it and buy a Titan Xp Star Wars Edition.

 

[silversurfer]

I imagine AMD willl supply another suitably capable Vega iteration along with the various vega types already known. But its still in area 51 right now

 

[melmac]

Well thats true I thought so too but i.e at min 2:00 in 2nd video, it goes up to 219 W withouth crash :S
Also yeah I've tried -5% pl and it still crashed, but I've tried "power save" more extensive which is -25% and it crashes

So nothing has worked? The only thing you can try now is another PC, else it's RMA time which sucks.

 

[marcday]

Illuminist said - "it actually all started happening when i installed the AIO watercooler."

seems pretty obvious that your install has gone wrong and you may have damaged the card.