The Tesla Thread

[Simon]

Perception is the difference between positive and negative. Teslas are average cars with some fancy tech but even this one surprised me. I was mainly following theone8181 as hes gone from a M3 V8 to a model 3 so was interested in his findings, then he mentioned the range thing as a new user which i have picked up on. I guess you guys have had them so long you go used to its shortcomings as a car to drive ICE > EV adoption. Not everyone is a tech head...

Dont get defensive.

 

[Russinating]

I was mainly following theone8181 as hes gone from a M3 V8 to a model 3 so was interested in his findings

Your first post in this thread is on 4 Apr 2016.

I'm happy to wait for you to find one.

 

[Simon]

What do you want me to find ? I cant invent something, maybe you can search for it if you enjoy stalking people. I didn't know this is the: 'Only positive tesla Model 3 comments' thread?

you have made 3 times as many posts in 2 yrs. You no doubt saw a cheap salary sacrifice so got interested in cheap motoring hence only looking two years ago. Hows that for an assumption?

PS i said nice things on your house thread as that deserved them

 

[Deleted member 651465]

Two years, I guess I must be very careful with mine.

I haven’t touched mine yet (I’ve only snow foamed it, not actually touched it with a cloth unless I’ve been waxing panels that are marked) yet it’s been utterly beat up.

I’ve had 3 stone chips (1 on the bumper which I had rectified by respraying the bumper) and now another 2 on the bonnet. I’m not rallying through a special stage but given I’ve done 1600 miles and it’s getting damaged so easily makes me think the paint is suuuuuuuper thin.

Even random parts of the car will suddenly have a scratch appear overnight even though the car is parked miles from anyone at work and sits on a driveway on its own.

I knew black would show swirls/marks easily (I’ve owned black before) but this is ridiculous.

 

[Russinating]

What do you want me to find ? I cant invent something, maybe you can search for it if you enjoy stalking people. I didn't know this is the: 'Only positive tesla Model 3 comments' thread?

I'll settle for any post that is either positive, constructive, or not just plain anti-EV bias/sentiment like this, your 3rd post, from 2016:

The tesla owners or speculators remind me of the Apple fanboys who queue for hours to buy into a brand.

This is not a format war. That was in 1900s when ICE won over battery cars.

And that'll be my own last reply to you either way before the mods or other members get aa bored of the derail as much as I am.

 

[Simon]

A lot changes in 5 yrs! Don't hold me to a comment I made 5.5 yrs ago. This isnt twitter and racist posts!

 

[Deleted member 651465]

Seems Tesla do not and it’s hardly difficult to do. Maybe they should focus on that rather than whoopie cushions and other pointless stuff

They actually do. The latest updates have tweaked the range algorithm.

I’m guessing those who’ve noticed poor range aren’t running the latest update or they’re driving in a spirited way which is dropping the rang quickly.

I took mine 52 miles (all motorway) this morning at 8’C weather from a cold start and the range dropped from 82% to 67% which is about what I’d expect. Had I floored it once in a while or done a lot of spirited driving then I could easily have dropped that to 50% for the same trip.

 

[theone8181]

Perception is the difference between positive and negative. Teslas are average cars with some fancy tech but even this one surprised me. I was mainly following theone8181 as hes gone from a M3 V8 to a model 3 so was interested in his findings, then he mentioned the range thing as a new user which i have picked up on. I guess you guys have had them so long you go used to its shortcomings as a car to drive ICE > EV adoption. Not everyone is a tech head...

Dont get defensive.

Yay my first stalker. It's definitely I'm interesting comparison. To start with I do have some issues even though I only got the car on sunday. 1st up the drivers door has a creak which I attribute to a check strap, I'm looking at seeing if I van get a mobile visit-full disclosure my car is 69 plate and has 34k miles so not brand new, and the more annoying one is that pretty much every journey I lose access to cruise/that visualisation thing (sorry I'm not up on names). I do use a USB stick, so I've ordered an ssd via USB to see if that solves it, neither if these are major they're just annoying. Also how do you display projected range that seems far more useful.

As a comparison to an actual M3 (refuse to call the model 3 that), obviously acceleration from a standing start is much much quicker, even in the wet, although it did wheelspin a bit. I'd say the difference was much closer at motorway speeds which is where electric starts to lose a bit of puff (obviously that's relativity speaking, it's not like it's slow).

Noise wise, I wouldn't say it's that much quieter than my M3 (when cruising), at low revs there's not a lot of noise in bigger cars I find.

Handling wise, I've not hammered it round corners much mainly as it's got 4 new tyres on (kumos, not sure how good they are), and I'm not sure it's actually stopped raining since I picked the car up. The feedback isn't too bad, feels on par with a modern car with electric powersteering.

Visibility seems pretty poor in the model 3, especially at this time of year, the rear view mirror seems pretty useless, and I have an issue that when I'm sat in a 4/5 door car the B pillar is a real bad blind spot, obviously not an issue with a coupe.

Overall its not a bad change, I miss the engine noise, but the shuttle lauch makes up for that, I was getting annoyed at spending 300 quid a month on fuel, 50 a month on road tax. And the last year I probably spent a couple of grand on maintenance even though I had a warranty, oh and my local stratstone are utterly useless.

 

[Deleted member 651465]

Also how do you display projected range that seems far more useful.

the quickest way is to tap on the battery percentage on the main touchscreen.

Alternatively, go in the car settings and change it.

 

[Russinating]

the quickest way is to tap on the battery percentage on the main touchscreen.

Alternatively, go in the car settings and change it.

Real-world the easiest way is to just use the nav which will tell you if you have enough, what percentage you'll arrive on, and if any stops are needed and where/for how long and if/when to prewarm etc.

Given the benefits of traffic (and the above) I doubt anyone goes much further than a few dozen miles without inputting a destination anyway?

 

[Deleted member 651465]

I sync my calendar, so as long as my calendar is up to date the car automatically plots a route

 

[b0rn2sk8]

@EVH what was their resolution for the paint issues you have been having?

The people who cleaned mine before delivery managed to put a lot of swirl marks in it. I don’t think there is anything that will not buff out mind, there is just more than I would have expected for a new car.

I’ve logged it via the app and they have booked it into the body shop for early Jan. I assume the resolution will be for them to take a machine polisher to it. I’ve not supplied pictures yet as it’s been so wet and impossible to photograph.

Before taking delivery I arranged for a detailer to install a ceramic coating but that will not be until the new year. I’ve since spoken to the detailer and he should be able to get the swirls out but it may cost a bit more than the original quote if it needs additional polishing to get them out.

What are the odds Tesla will pick up some of the tab for just letting the detailer sort it? It seems a bit silly and not particularly cost effective for everyone involved to have two people machine polish the car within a matter of days of each other.

 

[Deleted member 651465]

@b0rn2sk8 I’m on first name terms with the service manager, it’s getting ridiculous now.

They haven’t come back to me with a final solution but yesterday I waited at the service centre whilst they completed the work (4hrs) and we all stood outside after they’d finished, looking at the car and discussing options. The last thing mentioned was a respray of the back quarter and a replacement light cluster.

They were initially going to send someone out on a mobile visit to do the light but as the paint isn’t complete then they’re going to do both on the same visit. 2 of the service centre staff could see the marks weren’t removed and commented that it wasn’t good which I’m glad for because on times I’ve felt like I’m being fussy.

Be prepared… If it’s anything like the service centre I visited, they’ll do the work then park the car outside the show room for collection. Which is exactly what you want when it’s hammering down and you’re looking at paint repairs

Like you, I had a price for a professional to detail the car and ceramic coat it with a graphene coat (£750) and had to cancel him TWICE because the car kept going back for more work.

After seeing how easily the car scratches and after all the times I’ve had to take it in, I’ve cancelled that. Sentry footage caught someone opening their door on to mine (door fully open resting on my car as the person got out) and the mark was like someone had taken a screwdriver to the door. Normally I’d t-cut stuff like that off, but it didn’t budge…. Not sure if the water based paint is softer than other brands or if this particular car is poorly done but I am certainly considering having it wrapped if it’s going to look like that after minor contact.

Yes, you could argue it’s not mine (it’s on lease) but I’ve had it less than 3 months and I take good care of it. I don’t want to drive around in a new car with marks all over it because it scratches as soon as you look at it.

Unfortunately, the chances of Tesla picking up the tab for your own detailer are zero. They’ll send it to an approved body shop if they haven’t got the tools in house to machine polish it (depends on the size of the service centre) however if you state you want it detailed you may get more joy with them getting someone more specialist to do the work.

The first time I took it in and they sprayed the bumper I complained that they hadn’t got the marks off other parts of the car and I was able to get them to have it professionally detailed.In fairness, it came back really nice but I was apprehensive about sending this straight to the ceramic coating guy I’d lined up for fear of ending up with no clear coat left.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

@EVH thanks for taking the time to write that out. I’ll speak to them and see what they say.

This is the very worst mark on the car and I would definitely put this in the ‘scratch’ box but it’s not through the clear coat:
https://i.imgur.com/UcQA9TG.jpg

The rest I’d say are minor in comparison and now the car is covered in a light smattering of road grime they are very hard to see and impossible photograph. If I cleaned it they would show up in the sunshine and the swirls follow the lines of the car where they wiped it down before handing it over to me.

On a more positive note, the car is great to drive and outside the pre-installed scratches I’m very happy with it.

I took it on a proper hoon down some backroads yesterday and for what isn’t at all a ‘sports car’ it handled it great. It’s certainly no track monster but for regular roads, the RWD has more than enough performance. It makes overtaking a bit of a non event with how quickly you can pick up speed.

I’m sure the EV ‘kick’ will start to pass in time, but as such my wh/mile is currently 288 over nearly 300 miles. It’s been pretty cold and wet though and I’m currently handing off the granny lead at 7A so no preconditioning and the battery has been cold when setting off with limited regen.

 

[Russinating]

It makes overtaking a bit of a non event with how quickly you can pick up speed.

I’m sure the EV ‘kick’ will start to pass in time, but as such my wh/mile is currently 288 over nearly 300 miles. It’s been pretty cold and wet though and I’m currently handing off the granny lead at 7A so no preconditioning and the battery has been cold when setting off with limited regen.

This . The 40/50-70 is so quick/silent it is like you a say a non-event.

The kick doesn't lose its appeal, or at least it hasn't for me. But just like driving an ICE, sometimes you take it slightly easier to save the battery. This is my Teslamate dash after 8000/almost 2 years:

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[theone8181]

@EVH thanks for taking the time to write that out. I’ll speak to them and see what they say.

This is the very worst mark on the car and I would definitely put this in the ‘scratch’ box but it’s not through the clear coat:
https://i.imgur.com/UcQA9TG.jpg

The rest I’d say are minor in comparison and now the car is covered in a light smattering of road grime they are very hard to see and impossible photograph. If I cleaned it they would show up in the sunshine and the swirls follow the lines of the car where they wiped it down before handing it over to me.

On a more positive note, the car is great to drive and outside the pre-installed scratches I’m very happy with it.

I took it on a proper hoon down some backroads yesterday and for what isn’t at all a ‘sports car’ it handled it great. It’s certainly no track monster but for regular roads, the RWD has more than enough performance. It makes overtaking a bit of a non event with how quickly you can pick up speed.

I’m sure the EV ‘kick’ will start to pass in time, but as such my wh/mile is currently 288 over nearly 300 miles. It’s been pretty cold and wet though and I’m currently handing off the granny lead at 7A so no preconditioning and the battery has been cold when setting off with limited regen.

I'm hovering between 350 and 400 per mile. Heating and lights take their toll. Still a he'll of a lit cheaper to run though, I'm on 20 inch sticky tyres too.

^ where's that data from, looks cool.

 

[Deleted member 651465]

@EVH thanks for taking the time to write that out. I’ll speak to them and see what they say.

This is the very worst mark on the car and I would definitely put this in the ‘scratch’ box but it’s not through the clear coat:
https://i.imgur.com/UcQA9TG.jpg

The rest I’d say are minor in comparison and now the car is covered in a light smattering of road grime they are very hard to see and impossible photograph. If I cleaned it they would show up in the sunshine and the swirls follow the lines of the car where they wiped it down before handing it over to me.

On a more positive note, the car is great to drive and outside the pre-installed scratches I’m very happy with it.

I took it on a proper hoon down some backroads yesterday and for what isn’t at all a ‘sports car’ it handled it great. It’s certainly no track monster but for regular roads, the RWD has more than enough performance. It makes overtaking a bit of a non event with how quickly you can pick up speed.

I’m sure the EV ‘kick’ will start to pass in time, but as such my wh/mile is currently 288 over nearly 300 miles. It’s been pretty cold and wet though and I’m currently handing off the granny lead at 7A so no preconditioning and the battery has been cold when setting off with limited regen.

@EVH thanks for taking the time to write that out. I’ll speak to them and see what they say.

This is the very worst mark on the car and I would definitely put this in the ‘scratch’ box but it’s not through the clear coat:
https://i.imgur.com/UcQA9TG.jpg

The rest I’d say are minor in comparison and now the car is covered in a light smattering of road grime they are very hard to see and impossible photograph. If I cleaned it they would show up in the sunshine and the swirls follow the lines of the car where they wiped it down before handing it over to me.

On a more positive note, the car is great to drive and outside the pre-installed scratches I’m very happy with it.

I took it on a proper hoon down some backroads yesterday and for what isn’t at all a ‘sports car’ it handled it great. It’s certainly no track monster but for regular roads, the RWD has more than enough performance. It makes overtaking a bit of a non event with how quickly you can pick up speed.

I’m sure the EV ‘kick’ will start to pass in time, but as such my wh/mile is currently 288 over nearly 300 miles. It’s been pretty cold and wet though and I’m currently handing off the granny lead at 7A so no preconditioning and the battery has been cold when setting off with limited regen.

I don't see the image.

I'm hovering between 350 and 400 per mile. Heating and lights take their toll. Still a he'll of a lit cheaper to run though, I'm on 20 inch sticky tyres too.

^ where's that data from, looks cool.

Read his post again.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

This . The 40/50-70 is so quick/silent it is like you a say a non-event.

Haha yes I overtook a truck yesterday and was doing [an undisclosed speed] before I even got half way past it.

The usual approach in a ‘normal’ car (sub 150hp) of, dropping a cog, building revs, speed and then pedal to the metal until you are back on your side of the road goes out of the window. You’d be doing 100+ doing that in a Model 3.

I'm hovering between 350 and 400 per mile. Heating and lights take their toll. Still a he'll of a lit cheaper to run though, I'm on 20 inch sticky tyres too.

^ where's that data from, looks cool.

It’s Tesla Mate which is self hosted but there are others which are commercial outfits, Tezlab, Teslafi and a few others.

Tesla has an API that they can scrape data from and display it in a dashboard.

I don't see the image.

@EVH try this

https://imgur.com/UcQA9TG

 

[Deleted member 651465]

@EVH try this

https://imgur.com/UcQA9TG

Nope. Try using imgbb.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

Nope. Try using imgbb.

Try this, third time lucky.

https://ibb.co/mcNv8YF

Rear qtr panel.