The Tesla Thread

adolf hamster said:
they aren't, but tesla's current market is the new adopters, and they could become another brand to the mix, but at the end of the day the real electric cars that we'll be driving will be mainly made by the same people that are making our petrol and diesel cars currently.
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While the "powered by Tesla" tag may end up being a great sales pitch (perhaps the AMG/McLaren of the electric car world) by the big companies I wonder if they have shot themselves in the foot by open sourcing their patents a couple of years ago.

Why use tesla parts when you can just use the underlying tech for "free"?
 
Robbo said:
Are there any indications of price yet?

If it's £35,000 then it's priced roughly the same as a BMW 320d M Sport Auto, if Tesla can put a lot of support behind lease and PCP deals, I can see them selling quite a few.

I'm not really a fan of the rear proportions of the car, a bit like the 3 and 5 series GT's, but it's not bad.
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$35,000 US, so around £32k Inc VAT at today's exchange rate, but that only gets you the 220 mile range version. It's around $60,000 for the 310 mile range version apparently (so not an "affordable" vehicle then!), which would be around £55k.

The latter in reality is probably what most people would actually want.
 
Amp34 said:
While the "powered by Tesla" tag may end up being a great sales pitch (perhaps the AMG/McLaren of the electric car world) by the big companies I wonder if they have shot themselves in the foot by open sourcing their patents a couple of years ago.

Why use tesla parts when you can just use the underlying tech for "free"?
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tis a good point, although maybe the plan is to get in on the ground floor and undercut self-production, given how they're specialising early rather than the gradual shift the other companies will be doing.
 
Amp34 said:
$35,000 US, so around £32k Inc VAT at today's exchange rate, but that only gets you the 220 mile range version. It's around $60,000 for the 310 mile range version apparently (so not an "affordable" vehicle then!), which would be around £55k.

The latter in reality is probably what most people would actually want.
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You mean $44k for the 320mile version. Probably what most people think they want, it's not what most people need. 200miles would do me and most people fine. Day to day vast majority of people don't get anywhere near that mileage and it's long enough that a 30min charge isn't an issue, that's over two hours driving at motorway speed limit.

I'm surprised how little extra weight there is compared to its competition. Or with current tax incentives it's can go over much cheaper cars as well.

 
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Nasher said:
I'm guessing that is after government subsidies.
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Nope. $35 is the base coat. With subsidies depending on state you can get it for as little as about $23.5k, of your tax bill is high enough and untill Tesla subsidies start to diminish (once they've sold 200k EVs in America.
 
So long range battery option is actually the only choice to start with (until they ramp up production) and no RHD cars until 2019 has put a dampener on my itch to go EV. Maybe something else as appealing will become available in the mean time from another manufacturer.
 
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The 200 mile range would be an issue for people using them as company cars (not so with the 320i and C300).

If you are doing 30k miles a year, it's fair to assume you are regularly driving long distances and at present there's no guarantee of a charging point at your destination.

If the long range battery tips the price over £40k then it will have other tax implications too, compared to rivals.
 
Is it true that the car is synced to your Bluetooth on your phone and unlocks upon approaching? Sounds very secure that :rolleyes: wonder how long it will take thieves to come up with something like they have with the keyless entry.
I can see the Tesla being the new S3/Golf R for thieves once it becomes more mainstream.
 
Dav4 said:
Is it true that the car is synced to your Bluetooth on your phone and unlocks upon approaching? Sounds very secure that :rolleyes: wonder how long it will take thieves to come up with something like they have with the keyless entry.
I can see the Tesla being the new S3/Golf R for thieves once it becomes more mainstream.
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That's true from what I've seen. Will be interesting to see how successful the idea is.
 
Cleisthenes said:
That's true from what I've seen. Will be interesting to see how successful the idea is.
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It sounds like a disaster imo. Bluetooth over your phone is not secure at all and say you've been out all day and your crappy IPhone battery dies how the hell do you then get in your Tesla to drive home? Lol.
 
Bluetooth to handle something that needs to be secure? Oh dear...

People stopped using bluetooth for anything important a long time ago, because it's security is pathetic.

A 90s coded key is 1000x more secure.
 
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Nasher said:
Bluetooth to handle something that needs to be secure?

Oh dear...

People stopped using bluetooth for anything important a long time ago, because it's security is pathetic.
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I know it sounds even less secure than the current keyless entry and they can just be approached and driven away with ease. It might be a cool feature over in LA or wherever Tesla are based in there million dollar houses with little crime rate but they need to think of the general public. They are just going to be stolen off people's driveways with ease
 
Dav4 said:
It sounds like a disaster imo. Bluetooth over your phone is not secure at all and say you've been out all day and your crappy IPhone battery dies how the hell do you then get in your Tesla to drive home? Lol.
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Only if they had thought of this, oh wait they have.
 
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