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AMD are still not competing .... https://www.overclockers.co.uk/foru...eature-test-port-royal-bench-thread.18838895/
Pretty sure they do well in firestrike.
They compete quite well, that 2.65ghz 6900XT has already half Nvidias Port Royal score
They compete quite well, that 2.65ghz 6900XT has already half Nvidias Port Royal score
Ah the troll has arisen from his slumber.
3D Mark is an Nvidia shill, Nvidia pays them to build benchmarks that make AMD look bad. I wouldn't try running Firestrike either you're just promoting the shilling just like Userbenchmark
3D Mark is an Nvidia shill, Nvidia pays them to build benchmarks that make AMD look bad. I wouldn't try running Firestrike either you're just promoting the shilling just like Userbenchmark
Already bored looking at ray tracing in that crappy game? I heard it looks even better when you play the game for the 10th time.
We can talk as much as we want but the reality is Nvidia is dominating the PC market. Even if i am not the biggest fan of Nvidia, i admit they did a pretty good job selling their video cards. It does not matter how they did that, this is capitalism and the end justifies the means. If you are Apple and you can convince enough fools that they need to buy the new products every time to be part of an elite, you are succesful. If you are Nvidia and you can convince enough fools that they need to buy your latest products every time, you are succesful. I will say that if you are AMD and you can convince enough fools that they need to pay up to $1200 for your products just because you care more about costumers than Nvidia or Intel, you are also succesful.
With Nvidia dominating the PC market there is not too much AMD can do. Because unlike Intel, Nvidia are very good at selling their products, they always manage to create enough hype at launch and they always manage to sell far more cards than AMD.
The fact that AMD have their own hardware in consoles matters but just like game developers need to optimize their games to run well on consoles if they want to make a ton of money in that market, they also need to optimize their games to run well on Nvidia cards if they want to make a ton of money in the PC market. As long as AMD does not have a big market share in the PC market, all game developers will optimize their games to work well on Nvidia cards. And they won't get a bigger marketshare without a fight, without aggressive prices, better software and support for game devs and sponsoring AAA games. I don't see a bright future for AMD tbh, i think nothing will change in the coming years. I won't fall into Nvidia trap but i am sure they will keep selling a lot more cards than AMD.
Already bored looking at ray tracing in that crappy game? I heard it looks even better when you play the game for the 10th time.
Why do I get the idea we have too many console kiddies on here?
That's their problem, both are doing well in rasterisation, but RT and DLSS leaves them in the dust for now. They need to adjust pricing to reflect this.
So they should reduce the price of their cards based on being slower in an incredibly niche feature that a tiny fraction of pc games currently make use of? Yeah, that's gonna happen. Reading on here you would think 99.99% of games use ray tracing and not the other way around.
AMD already have their own version of dlss in the works so that will obviously bring up the rt performance in the games that make use of it.
3D Mark is an Nvidia shill, Nvidia pays them to build benchmarks that make AMD look bad. I wouldn't try running Firestrike either you're just promoting the shilling just like Userbenchmark
Oh look i lost a kidney to buy a videocard but i can play a game made especially to fool me to buy a new videocard. The game is worse than those made 10 years ago but the graphics...OMG the graphics! I can even reach 60FPS on fake resolution. Now i can go and laugh at those poor PS4/Xbox One X owners because unlike me, they are not able to run this crappy game on their old hardware. I can put a videocard from 2014 on my PC and it will run...wait a minute!Why do I get the idea we have too many console kiddies on here?
And the fool doesn't even understand that the new console owners will have a good enough experience with their less than $200 graphic chipsets, once/if the game will launch the new gen version on consoles.
I don't own a new console, i play on PC and have a 5600 xt atm and i don't want to buy a new card this year. But you should think twice before laughing at console owners. There is nothing to be proud about, you got scammed once more by Nvidia.
3080 / 6800XT both around the same price. Both trades blows on rasterisation. Only one offers playable RT and AI supersampling via dedicated cores that run in parallel with rasterisation, while the other offers last gen at best RT and a promise of supersampling running on the same cores that are used for rasterisation.
It's been a while since I checked VR, but last time I did the 3080 was in the lead again.
Apple, AMD, Intel, Microsoft, Nvidia, Sony and others are all investing in RT. Stuffing heads in sand is not going to make it go away.
And stuffing your head in the sand to the fact that rt enabled games are a tiny fraction of the market currently isn't going to make that go away either. It has a future obviously but that's the future, not the here and now. By the time even a few percent of games make use of it the 30 series and 68 series will be getting used as paperweights and doorstops.
Oh look i lost a kidney to buy a videocard but i can play a game made especially to fool me to buy a new videocard. The game is worse than those made 10 years ago but the graphic...OMG the graphic! I can even reach 60FPS on fake resolution. Now i can go and laugh at those poor PS4/Xbox One X owners because unlike me, they are not able to run this crappy game on their old hardware. I can put a videocard from 2014 on my PC and it will run...wait a minute!
And the fool doesn't even understand that the new console owners will have a good enough experience with their less than $200 graphic chipsets, once/if the game will launch the new gen version on consoles.
I don't own a new console, i play on PC and have a 5600 xt atm and i don't want to buy a new card this year. But you should think twice before laughing at console owners. There is nothing to be proud about, you got scammed once more by Nvidia.
£720 was the cost of my Asus 3080 TUF OC. RRP+£50 for the OC model (which I knew would arrive early) and £20 extra for OCUK. The same price as my EVGA 1080Ti FTW3. That's not too bad.
I enjoy eye candy and I'm tired of pancake worlds. RT in CP2077 has managed to create the first 3D effect that at times I felt I could reach out and touch. RT off it looks good, but pancake. RT on and wow. I don't know why you keep complaining about the game though, it's actually good. Though it takes a little thought as you do have to decide on how you are going to play it yourself, hence RPG like.
I think console owners will have a good enough time at that price point, but I'm not going to swap my PC for one
Oh, I'm not. I'm playing CP2077 then will work my way through Control, Metro Exodus, Wolfenstein YB and SOTTR next. I've been playing some Quake 2 RTX and Minecraft RTX. I'll maybe grab Pumpkin Jack and I have that RTS with RT on my wishlist. As far as I know UE4 is doing quite well with RT integration and we have Nvidia's up comming event, which fingers crossed, will have some next gen announcements.
I just went for the 3080 10GB as I plan to bin it once the 4080/RDNA3 arrives, so that's not an issue.
Remember as well that consoles are getting some RT in their titles. Of course it's low resolution and perhaps 30 FPS at best, but it's something.
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3D Mark is an Nvidia shill, Nvidia pays them to build benchmarks that make AMD look bad. I wouldn't try running Firestrike either you're just promoting the shilling just like Userbenchmark
Albrecht Dürer who invented raytracing was probably a Nvidia shill.
Shilling around, trolling in 16century BC. How dare he invent raytracing....
Heavy RT games have no future in the next 3-4 years but they might be used by Nvidia to promote their new products. I can see Jensen telling his friends (3090 owners) that it is time for them to upgrade to the 4000 series because a new AAA game will be launched and 3090 won't be enough to play it at 4k ultra. It is how he sell his new cards and good for him. But discrete RT will be used a lot in the future since consoles are able to do that.
Again if you like it, then good for you. But don't laugh at console owners because they paid far less money for their hardware and it is expected to have lower settings in games. But if we compare the level of optimization vs price of hardware, the console owners are far ahead, they get a lot more for their money than the PC owners. I can guarantee that when next gen Control will launch on consoles you will be surprised how good it looks. And the same with CP if they ever manage to launch the next gen on consoles.
If you can afford it i have nothing against buying every new card. But that game is bad right now it is very far from a AAA title if we don't count the graphics. I am used to play games with bad graphics and i don't mind running CP with very low settings. But i don't like the game it is pretty bad right now. It has potential but there are so many things to improve with the physics and AI, it will take a while before it will be a pleasant experience for me.£720 was the cost of my Asus 3080 TUF OC. RRP+£50 for the OC model (which I knew would arrive early) and £20 extra for OCUK. The same price as my EVGA 1080Ti FTW3. That's not too bad.
I enjoy eye candy and I'm tired of pancake worlds. RT in CP2077 has managed to create the first 3D effect that at times I felt I could reach out and touch. RT off it looks good, but pancake. RT on and wow. I don't know why you keep complaining about the game though, it's actually good. Though it takes a little thought as you do have to decide on how you are going to play it yourself, hence RPG like.
I think console owners will have a good enough time at that price point, but I'm not going to swap my PC for one
Again if you like it, then good for you. But don't laugh at console owners because they paid far less money for their hardware and it is expected to have lower settings in games. But if we compare the level of optimization vs price of hardware, the console owners are far ahead, they get a lot more for their money than the PC owners. I can guarantee that when next gen Control will launch on consoles you will be surprised how good it looks. And the same with CP if they ever manage to launch the next gen on consoles.
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They compete quite well, that 2.65ghz 6900XT has already half Nvidias Port Royal score
Fair play I say...at least he had the balls to run the benchmark and post it. Most ppl don't.
Can't be easy to spend 1200£ on a gfx card only to get beaten by a 3070
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