The "Top Gear", Season 24/25/26 thread

Gave it another chance and watched the complete last episode. I think it's the last chance I'll give it.
 
Enjoyed it, and I think it's getting into its stride now. The last episode fell a little flat for me having watched the MCM Cuba feature beforehand, but I think, given we'll have a celebrity segment no matter what, that it's an improvement on previous formats, and there's some good, well shot, pieces coming out. I'm happy to have two top quality car programmes available now, although I'd have to put TG considerably ahead of TGT as it stands.
 
I have to say the worst thing about it is Chris Harris commentating on the laps by the Stig or celeb!

"...that looks fast... fast there, kept it in 3rd... yeah, fast"

Honestly who thought that was a good idea? I just totally switch off from the laps now, was one of the better parts when Jeremy was doing it.
 
Was pretty surprised to see Mercedes resurrect 90's Japanese rear wheel steering for their AMG lol, though I suppose it's not a bad idea for a car that they know will hardly ever be used.
 
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4 wheel steering if like on the 911r sounds a fantastic thing to have. Was really interesting reading up on how it changes behaviour at different speeds to either give agility at low speed or stability up high.
 
Was pretty surprised to see Mercedes resurrect 90's Japanese rear wheel steering for their AMG lol, though I suppose it's not a bad idea for a car that they know will hardly ever be used.
Real wheel steering is amazing. The reason a car turns is cause the rear tyres 'twist'. Often with a delay after the steering input

Why wait for that when you can steer the rear wheels at the same time as the front

Nothing can change lanes like a 4WS prelude.
 
4 wheel steering if like on the 911r sounds a fantastic thing to have. Was really interesting reading up on how it changes behaviour at different speeds to either give agility at low speed or stability up high.
Nissan were doing that with Super HICAS in 1989. Everyone disables it because it makes the car steer unnaturally and sucks your confidence in it. I guess the new tech must be better.
 
4 wheel steering if like on the 911r sounds a fantastic thing to have.
Real wheel steering is amazing.
Oh it is, when the car's new.

When Honda first launched the tech on the 1987 Prelude it was fantastic (it let a 160BHP car get through a slalom faster than any Ferrari), the problem is that after that they replaced the mechanical system with an electronically controlled one (Which Nissan, Toyota, Mitsubishi, etc and now Porsche/Merc copied). This meant that a computer was now in charge of which direction the rear wheels are pointed, and by the 00's it meant a 10+ year old ECU was in charge of which direction the rear wheels are pointed. As the accidents started to pile up it got to the point where the advice on 4WS today (and for some time) is basically if your car has it then remove it ASAP by fitting parts from the 2WS model, and if there's no 2WS model then some 3rd party company will be making those parts as nobody wants 4WS.

Don't get me wrong it's a great idea, it saved my life on the A12 when I had to swerve at 70MPH to avoid a trailer that had become uncoupled, but it later nearly killed me when it turned the wheels of it's own volition and span the car into a stone wall.
 
and by the 00's it meant a 10+ year old ECU was in charge of which direction the rear wheels are pointed

That is an interesting one as the kind of electronics that go into those micro-electronic systems tend to have a life span of about 10 years in those kind of conditions and those systems would have been designed before AEC-Q200. Not so crucial in other areas of car electronics but anything involved in steering that doesn't meet AEC-Q200 or appropriate standard should really be taken off the road at around 10 years.
 
4cyl Cayman to "cheat" emissions tests, lol why. So you pay 50k and get basically the same engine as an Impreza (flat 4 turbo). I can see prices of the old ones holding...

He is right about the whole turbo vs n/a thing as well. Turbos are way less predictable when it comes to emissions and power. But the silly regulations are forcing everyone to use them :/
 
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Finally someone talking sense about the new Cayman. Been having this argument at work - who gives a toss how capable it is, no one spends £50k on a sports car with a 4-pot engine. Total sell out by Porsche.
 
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