***The Vapers Lounge*** 2.0

[UKDTweak]

Thanks to UKDTweak for your time and the help you have given, but i cannot get TC to work for me using Ti at this time, so ive gone back to my trusty Kanthal and vaping away happily - i might try some Ni200 or NiFe30 over the week and ill try and get some SS too but so far my experience of TC is not good.

Sorry you have not been able to get it working to your liking, only thing i can think of is to stick with the Wire Wizard curve that does not hit TC limit too fast, but gives you a funny flavour/harshness as it occurs to me, some of my TI builds taste funny for around 6-12 toots before it goes away, not sure what it is as its the same wire and wick i always use, but it does happen, so before you rip out the coils, apply your TFR from the Wire Wizard and then force a ghard reboot then take a good few toots maybe at lower power and see if the funny taste goes.. sometimes it can take 1/3 of a tank to get through but then once it goes the flavour of the juice comes though as it should and you are golden from there on in.

the harshness could be you nic level, i would not vape over 6mg on sub ohm, especially in TC as you are supper sub ohming..

 

[Gee]

Fine with me. You just saved me a bit more money, so I'm happy with that, Gee! I'm just being a bit over cautious. Apologies for being such a dimwit at this.

No worries at all my man.

Give me a shout/trust if you need help with anything else.

Be interested to see what concentrates you end up purchasing!

RDA wise I can recommend the Velocity Mini (better flavour imo) clone on Myepack. It's by Tobeco so it'll be a very good copy.

 

[Rilot]

Sorry you have not been able to get it working to your liking, only thing i can think of is to stick with the Wire Wizard curve that does not hit TC limit too fast, but gives you a funny flavour/harshness as it occurs to me, some of my TI builds taste funny for around 6-12 toots before it goes away, not sure what it is as its the same wire and wick i always use, but it does happen, so before you rip out the coils, apply your TFR from the Wire Wizard and then force a ghard reboot then take a good few toots maybe at lower power and see if the funny taste goes.. sometimes it can take 1/3 of a tank to get through but then once it goes the flavour of the juice comes though as it should and you are golden from there on in.

the harshness could be you nic level, i would not vape over 6mg on sub ohm, especially in TC as you are supper sub ohming..

I see you talking about a different way of getting a curve out of Wire Wizard..... or am I missing something. I only see one way of doing it.
Or are you just inputting a TCR rather than a curve in to eScribe?

 

[Twirlywoos]

Thanks to UKDTweak for your time and the help you have given, but i cannot get TC to work for me using Ti at this time, so ive gone back to my trusty Kanthal and vaping away happily - i might try some Ni200 or NiFe30 over the week and ill try and get some SS too but so far my experience of TC is not good.

Opinions are like ********* and everyone has one. I have also tried out Temp Control on a DNA200 and my opinion is that it is one huge gimmick and an awful direction for vaping to be taking.

Like video games we have Youtubers in the Vaping scene who people are willing to give a blowjob to just to listen to their views on TC and how great it is, all in the meanwhile these Youtubers get free swag and not having to spend a single penny, dime, etc on their mods. attys.

I can pick up a £25 mech mod, put on any RDTA, build a SS or Kanthal build and not get any dry hits or worry about burning through cotton as long as I do not run my atty dry.

What does TC achieve?

-Does it hold temps at a certain figure for eliquids that give better flavour at 245c instead of 210c, if so then why aren't vendors telling us what temp to vape at?

- Does it prevent evaporation instead of vapourization of eliquids which could cause potential "health" problems?

It's all ******** and funny seeing these internet medical Drs being advocates for the biggest scam in the vaping scene. TC

All it is good for is when people forget to refil or those who use drippers giving them a nice indication to rejuice by cutting down the temp to not burn their wicking material. That is all it is good for.

Now that is my opinion, don't fall for the hype and save your money. If you must buy a TC device do not go overboard and get a chip that is reliable.

 

[UKDTweak]

I see you talking about a different way of getting a curve out of Wire Wizard..... or am I missing something. I only see one way of doing it.
Or are you just inputting a TCR rather than a curve in to eScribe?

There used to be a TFR Calculator on steam engine, before wire wizard, this is where is got my TFR curve from, as i had problems with the TFR curve from the wire wizard, things may have changed now as the old link has now been removed, i think if i remember.. the Wire Wizard had an 8 point curve and the old Calc had a 7 point curve which made a difference.

 

[Merlin5]

No worries at all my man.

Give me a shout/trust if you need help with anything else.

Be interested to see what concentrates you end up purchasing!

RDA wise I can recommend the Velocity Mini (better flavour imo) clone on Myepack. It's by Tobeco so it'll be a very good copy.

Thanks Gee. Actually I'm thinking of buying a few FA concentrates initially as they seem to be possibly the best nasty-free flavours. There's going to be apple pie for sure, probably strawberry concentrate too, some bakery flavour like if I want to make a cake or doughnut juice, and not sure if I should buy custard or one of the vanilla flavourings to create a custard type flavour. Either way, I'll be adding a custard flavour to a fruit flavour, not custard by itself.

Yeah, I saw the Velocity on Myepack yesterday for 13.99 with very good reviews. I don't really know what the difference is between that and the mini though. Is the mini better suited for my mod which only goes to 50w? Deep enough juice well like the big Velocity so I don't have to keep dripping every 3 toots?

 

[UKDTweak]

Opinions are like ********* and everyone has one. I have also tried out Temp Control on a DNA200 and my opinion is that it is one huge gimmick and an awful direction for vaping to be taking.

Like video games we have Youtubers in the Vaping scene who people are willing to give a blowjob to just to listen to their views on TC and how great it is, all in the meanwhile these Youtubers get free swag and not having to spend a single penny, dime, etc on their mods. attys.

I can pick up a £25 mech mod, put on any RDTA, build a SS or Kanthal build and not get any dry hits or worry about burning through cotton as long as I do not run my atty dry.

What does TC achieve?

-Does it hold temps at a certain figure for eliquids that give better flavour at 245c instead of 210c, if so then why aren't vendors telling us what temp to vape at?

- Does it prevent evaporation instead of vapourization of eliquids which could cause potential "health" problems?

It's all ******** and funny seeing these internet medical Drs being advocates for the biggest scam in the vaping scene. TC

All it is good for is when people forget to refil or those who use drippers giving them a nice indication to rejuice by cutting down the temp to not burn their wicking material. That is all it is good for.

Now that is my opinion, don't fall for the hype and save your money. If you must buy a TC device do not go overboard and get a chip that is reliable.

Each to their own m8, i watch a lot of reviews and most still rock Kanthal builds as well as TC builds.
The point of TC is not just to prevent dry or burnt hits, limiting the temp can prevent boiling your juice which as yet we do not know the effects off, good or bad, so its not a bad thing to limit it and changing the temp limit on a tank build can have a big effect on the flavour of the juice, it can help to refine the taste on different juices, more so then just changing the power...

But it is a big learning curve, ive been using TC since the release of the DNA40 and its only since i got my DAN200 a few months ago that ive really started to better understand it, it take patience and time to get your head around how it works and how best to harness it.
Some people just dont have the patience or time and for that kanthal is still the best option and its quick and easy to use, but once you get the hang of TC, it really does work and well... you just need to take your time, find the best tank and coil combo.

 

[Kanifee]

Im on the side of the fence Tc isn't welcome. for me though it is more to do with the experience than the tech itself, i just prefer the vape form kanthal, i can get perfect flavor, perfect vapor and throat hit without Tc. All you need is experience wicking, the correct tank/rda and the experience with coils.

I suppose Tc eliminates a lot of the finicky wicking issues people get when starting out building there own coils but for me i know what tanks i have that perform the best with what coils, and tc offers me nothing. I do not get dry hits from any of my tanks other than the subtank mini, a v1 i may add, and that is just form the poor design of the rta deck with high vg. Now i no longer use it, simples!

 

[UKDTweak]

Wicking with a TC build is still if not more important then with kanthal, get it wrong and Tc will kick in before you can get a good vape.
I still use my Subtank mini with the original RBA and rocking it at 45j and no dry hits running a twisted 26awg TI coil and 90VG juice, works great, its only issue is connectivity, it can sometime read the wrong ohms if you move it on the 510, otherwise it works really well and easy to build and wick.

 

[Gee]

Thanks Gee. Actually I'm thinking of buying a few FA concentrates initially as they seem to be possibly the best nasty-free flavours. There's going to be apple pie for sure, probably strawberry concentrate too, some bakery flavour like if I want to make a cake or doughnut juice, and not sure if I should buy custard or one of the vanilla flavourings to create a custard type flavour. Either way, I'll be adding a custard flavour to a fruit flavour, not custard by itself.

Yeah, I saw the Velocity on Myepack yesterday for 13.99 with very good reviews. I don't really know what the difference is between that and the mini though. Is the mini better suited for my mod which only goes to 50w? Deep enough juice well like the big Velocity so I don't have to keep dripping every 3 toots?

The mini is exactly the same but it's slightly smaller by about 5mm if I remember so it won't look as daft.

I've got both the big Velocity & the mini and I prefer the mini due to the size and (in my experience) the better flavour.

If you use the 'Scottish Roll' technique for wicking, you probably wont need to drip for every 20 toots

 

[Merlin5]

The mini is exactly the same but it's slightly smaller by about 5mm if I remember so it won't look as daft.

I've got both the big Velocity & the mini and I prefer the mini due to the size and (in my experience) the better flavour.

If you use the 'Scottish Roll' technique for wicking, you probably wont need to drip for every 20 toots

I see. I actually like the look of the taller Velocity, kind of makes a change from my IGO-W which is very short. I've looked at a few mini RDAs like the Stro Mini, but decided they're a bit too short. That said, I'll do some more youtube videos of the Velocity Mini before I press the button on one or t'other. And if it gives better flavour, that counts for a lot. I will also have to look up the Scottish Roll method!

My favourite looking RDA is by far the Mutation X V4. But apparently it leaks so you have to be very careful how you drip onto it so it doesn't leak from the bottom airholes. And also, it doesn't have a Velocity style 2 post deck which I'd prefer. Although, it does at least have 4 posts making it easier for dual coil builds.

 

[UKDTweak]

Gave the Hotcig DNA200 some Carbon love..

 

[TommyV]

Just bit the bullet and ordered a Crius V3 (velocity deck) from myepack, I feel like I'm betraying my beloved aromamisers but cannot resist the temptation

 

[UKDTweak]

You wont be disappointed Tommy, the Crius is a great flavour tank, i dare to say, better than the Aromamizer for some juices, for example, Element Key Lime Cookie, taste is much stronger in the Cruis using a similar build.

 

[Gee]

Just bit the bullet and ordered a Crius V3 (velocity deck) from myepack, I feel like I'm betraying my beloved aromamisers but cannot resist the temptation

You wont be disappointed Tommy, the Crius is a great flavour tank, i dare to say, better than the Aromamizer for some juices, for example, Element Key Lime Cookie, taste is much stronger in the Cruis using a similar build.

Mine arrived last Friday from FT!

Really enjoying it, filling is a doddle and the velocity deck is so easy to work with.

My favourite looking RDA is by far the Mutation X V4. But apparently it leaks so you have to be very careful how you drip onto it so it doesn't leak from the bottom airholes. And also, it doesn't have a Velocity style 2 post deck which I'd prefer. Although, it does at least have 4 posts making it easier for dual coil builds.

I have the V4 mate and as you said, it leaks like hell. It does look nice I admit, but for me the Velocity is always my go-to.

 

[TommyV]

You wont be disappointed Tommy, the Crius is a great flavour tank, i dare to say, better than the Aromamizer for some juices, for example, Element Key Lime Cookie, taste is much stronger in the Cruis using a similar build.

Mine arrived last Friday from FT!

Really enjoying it, filling is a doddle and the velocity deck is so easy to work with.

Sounds like it's a good choice!

What builds have you had the most success with?

 

[UKDTweak]

Sounds like it's a good choice!

What builds have you had the most success with?

Im currently rocking my V2 with dual 25awg 317L SS, 8 spaced wraps around a 2.5mm bit, around 0.3ohms and 55w in Power mode, even 65w is still ok.
The V3 (Velocity deck) ive been running Dual Twisted TI, 26awg 4/5 wraps around a 2.5mm bit, 0.2 or less ohms and 55w with 70w pre heat in TC mode.

 

[Brackish]

Anyone else here got the COV Vengeance tank yet? Would like to know what you think of it.

I have really been enjoying this tank, in fact I have not touched the Lemo 2 since!

 

[Rilot]

I've got the Crius V3 and I too like it a lot. It's a really easy tank to work with but you need to watch your clearance with spaced coils above 2.5mm I find. I've got a spaced 2.5mm 304SS build in there at the moment and it's got great flavour. Super easy to fill too.

Also, the Melo 2 tanks I got. Really, really liking these. They take the Atlantis / Triton coils but they have a top fill hole like the Lemo 2 but bigger. They have great flavour and look good too. Better than the Triton / Triton 2 in every way.

 

[Gee]

Sounds like it's a good choice!

What builds have you had the most success with?

Standard 26g / 2.5mm / 6-7 wraps (~0.4ohms)

Wicked it incorrectly at first as I packed too much cotton in the channel where the juice holes are.

Re-wicked it with just a slither of cotton in there and it's keeping up!

Very happy for £19.