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It isn't, the £380 price, was only a launch day price, and was only for the first 300 cards sold.
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Poll: The Vega Review Thread.
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It isn't, the £380 price, was only a launch day price, and was only for the first 300 cards sold.
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After all this time waiting after what its brought to the table it's still **** pricing when this performance could be had albeit 10% higher price BUT 15 months earlier.
The same arguments come out at each new GPU release.
Why buy a 1080 when GTX980Ti EOL can be had for so little.
Why buy a Fury Pro when a 390X EOL can be had for so little.
Why buy a... you get the point.
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The same arguments come out at each new GPU release.
Why buy a 1080 when GTX980Ti EOL can be had for so little.
Why buy a Fury Pro when a 390X EOL can be had for so little.
Why buy a... you get the point.
I remember that after the GTX1080 launch - it was also directed at the GTX1070,as people were contemplating price cut or secondhand GTX980TI cards against GTX1070 cards. I remember people saying the GTX980TI overclocked much better,etc.
No it isn't please do some fact checking before you post. The link to RX 56 for £380 is still active for pre-orders on this site and a number of others. So anyone wanting an RX 56 at that "special" price can still order one if they are prepared to wait.
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Ahh yes my mistake, it was only 300 of the 64s that were going to be back down in price.
The 56s wont be at £380 for long though id have thought, as it does say on the product page, its a launch only price, so id expect them to go up eventually, like the 64s did.
The 56s wont be at £380 for long though id have thought, as it does say on the product page, its a launch only price, so id expect them to go up eventually, like the 64s did.
Why, if your new card brings the same perf as the EOL card?
What the frack is the point of the new card, and why do AMD keep doing this?
We've had 290/390/480/580 perf for so many generations... and each time the new cards came out they cost more.
Now it's Fury = Vega 56. ~Same perf, more cost.
I suspect deep down you know that historically, a new card with ~ same perf as an older one would cost less. That's how it worked for years and years and years.
This new phenomenon of having the same perf actually cost you more with each new release is quite a recent thing. People love to suck it up tho from the posts here defending the practice. Or maybe just defending AMD...
That is a valid point, but anyone looking for that level of performance now do have a better level of choice than they did a few days ago. Some people are on AMD for whatever reason (Freesync for example) and they now have an upgrade path from their 390X, Fury Pro or Fury X.
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Why do you keep saying this in the REVIEW thread of all places?? You have just conveniently ignored reviews like this one posted in the last few pages:
https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/08/25/amd_radeon_rx_vega_56_versus_r9_fury/3
HardOCP do proper run throughs - you really love hyperbole don't you??
You need to quit doing this before you make a laughing stock of yourself. You are spouting nonsense as facts.
Fury is actually slower than Vega 56 and Vega 56 costs significantly less.
Fury £520 on release.
RX 56 £380 on release.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_RX_Vega_56/31.html
So ~10%-15% faster at stock and 37% cheaper at release prices. I mean unless you want to count those £250 used prices as a valid comparison?
Nah, I just think AMD have released some absolute turds that only die-hard AMD superfans will be buying at their current LOL prices.Why do you keep saying this in the REVIEW thread of all places?? You have just conveniently ignored reviews like this one posted in the last few pages:
https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/08/25/amd_radeon_rx_vega_56_versus_r9_fury/3
HardOCP do proper run throughs - you really love hyperbole don't you??
Smart money is on nV's next offerings, which will destroy Vega in both perf and perf/$.
I used to buy AMD GPUs btw. They've made me vehemently dislike them in the last 3 years. To the point where what they've released is so offensively ****, it will take a massive leap to pull me back from nV. AMD GPUs = garbage right now, and for the last couple years.
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Eh? In one or two instances the Fury X matches it, for the rest it's far behind. Shame the available prices are terrible. If I didn't have a 980 Ti and G-sync monitor it's where I'd go at £380-400.
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Right so if smart money is on Volta why are you not flooding all the Pascal threads telling people not to buy Pascal then and to wait for Volta??
So basically you have no intentions of buying any AMD card,admit you don't like their GPUs for the last three years,then make up hyperbole to feign even more rage,even though you admit for the last three years don't want their cards??
So why are you even that bothered about this card?? I mean, IIRC,is this even the type of card you normally buy at £300+,as I mostly remember you going on about cheaper cards.
Remains to be seen how many people can buy at £380, and how many will be asked to pay £469.... If the "special launch price" of £380 isn't widely available, it's just more fail.
I never said I didn't want an AMD card. I said I don't want/won't buy the crap they're peddling now. They need to get their **** together, and then I'd buy their cards again.
It just baffles me how many people can still defend them and buy their clearly inferior GPUs right now. Baffles me. They don't deserve your money because they're basically insulting everyone with this terrible release and awful pricing. And all the smoke and mirrors with the "special launch prices" and the "free" games costing £100.
What do AMD have to do to you lot to actually **** you off? Can they do no wrong, because they're the underdog?
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RX 480 was a turd IMHO, agree, as was its rebrand RX 580. I soundly detested how AMD priced and released those GPUs. Though R9 Fury/X were actually very decent GPUs and held their own against their competitors until 1070 and 1080 released.
No way, Nvidia's Volta GPUs will beat existing GPUs shocker, roll on 2018. Well that's such a valid argument that everyone should simply stop purchasing GPUs from Nvidia and AMD until Volta releases. (sarcasm)
Ah I see, it's pent up anger and rage at AMD that is making you post garbage? AMD have dropped the ball a few years now but to post hyperbole (re Vega vs Fiji) as fact is just making you look silly. This very thread OP has many links showing RX 56 beating Fury Pro (and Fury X) at a much cheaper price point.
£469 isn't "much cheaper" If only a few hundred people can buy at £380 than you can't claim that's the real price.
Well you can, but it's clearly not going to make anyone feel better that a handful of people were able to buy at that price then everyone else has to pay £90 more
If only a few hundred people can buy at £380 than you can't claim that's the real price.Well you can, but it's clearly not going to make anyone feel better that a handful of people were able to buy at that price then everyone else has to pay £90 more
I'm sure I could find many posts where you took Nvidia to task in relation to the Founders Edition 1070 and 1080 prices? (it's a rhetorical question, I already checked and lo and behold, no mention
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You just said you disliked them for three years,and now for the last two pages you have been moaning for the last few pages. You start by making a statement saying R9 290X launch pricing and RX480 launch pricing were the same,then state at least twice that a Fury is the same as a Vega56,when that is not the case.
You also just conveniently ignored the GTX1070 and GTX1080 launch here when people were going on how their GTX980TI cards with their "overclock headroom" were a match for the GTX1070 and GTX1080,and moaning about those cards too,especially all the whole "Founders Edition" thing.
Guess what?? Two of my last three cards have been Nvidia,and that is because I look at what I can get on the day. The same goes with any purchase I make. If the PC market is too expensive,I can go and do something else FFS.
I mean you really think computers are bad? Look at phones and indeed look at one of my other hobbies,photography?? A combination of the weaker Pound and Yen price increases has massively increased prices. I mean my D600 cost £670 from JL,ex-display,and they could be had for just over £1000 new a few years ago. They are now £1250 and the replacement for that and the D750 will probably cost even more. I mean I got a Fuji XT10 kit for £350 late last year on offer for a family member,and the XT20 with the SAME lens costs £900 now.
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Not looking very hard then, but then I don't blame you, trawling through someone's post history is very dull and I can never be bothered myself.I'm sure I could find many posts where you took Nvidia to task in relation to the Founders Edition 1070 and 1080 prices? (it's a rhetorical question, I already checked and lo and behold, no mention
Suffice to say I've been critical of nV's 10xx pricing in so many threads you could call me a broken record on that account too.
Which is why I've also said (too many times, not sure why I bother) that if Volta isn't reasonably priced I'm leaving PC gaming behind and buying a PS4Pro or XB1X (probably the PS4, the exclusives make it a better choice I think).
PC gaming isn't worth spending an entire month's disposable income on one component every year. Just not worth it (for me). Esp when other stuff needs upgrading every couple years also, like CPU/mobo (thanks, Intel, for the continuous socket changes). Etc, etc.
Love is almost over here. It's Volta or bust, and Volta needs to cost less than the 10xx series.
AMD **** me off this time round with their talk about Polaris and Vega being the "revolution" bringing affordable performance to the masses. What an absolute crock that turned out to be. AMD lied their asses off. And what good did it do them?