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Poll: The Vega Review Thread.

What do we think about Vega?

  • What has AMD been doing for the past 1-2 years?

  • It consumes how many watts and is how loud!!!

  • It is not that bad.

  • Want to buy but put off by pricing and warranty.

  • I will be buying one for sure (I own a Freesync monitor so have little choice).

  • Better red than dead.

Results are only viewable after voting.
Gerard said:
They've had the consoles for yonks now, it doesn't seem to have inflated their bank balance any.
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They haven't gone bankrupt with them not having consoles could probably have happened by now. Bulldozer was a really terrible decision for them.

There is also something else people have missed here - have you noticed how the consoles share many of the features of their desktop GPUs quite early on?? The PS4 is the same uarch as AMD Hawaii and even has 8 ACEs too.

I would argue that hints AMD is using its console contracts to help fund some of their GPU R and D too.
 
FoxEye said:
EVERY GPU issue of all time? No, clearly not. But what's happening today? Yup, that's miner's fault.
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Nonsense, the Vega sellout was down to gamers and professional users. Some dumb miners may have bought cards but hardly enough to try and blame mining for the Vega sellout.
 
ubersonic said:
Nonsense, the Vega sellout was down to gamers and professional users. Some dumb miners may have bought cards but hardly enough to try and blame mining for the Vega sellout.
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We don't really know that though, gibbo mentioned that phonecall he got with some guy offering 800£ a card because of something allegedly in the works to dramatically increase the hash rate.

Reality is it COULD have been gamers but it also COULD have been miners that got the lions share, we really don't know.
 
Gerard said:
gibbo mentioned that phonecall he got with some guy offering 800£ a card because of something allegedly in the works to dramatically increase the hash rate
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There is a certain comedy to Gibbo having to fend of a zombie trying to throw money at him over a rumor he himself started XD
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
It also shows,that the Vega 64 draws much more power for a very little extra performance over a Vega56. Plus if you look at review sites where plenty of other cards are listed,the Vega 56 draws either slightly less or slightly more than an RX580.
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Wait, the RX 580 draws around 200 W stock too?? I didn't know the RX 580 was so power hungry. My RX 480 rarely tops 100 W when maxed out!
 
DragonQ said:
Wait, the RX 580 draws around 200 W stock too?? I didn't know the RX 580 was so power hungry. My RX 480 rarely tops 100 W when maxed out!
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The frequency/power curve isn't linear. Near max frequency possible the wattage required goes through the roof.

The 480 was already being pushed near its limits. When the 580 had something stupid like a 50Mhz bump the power shot up.
 
KNiVES said:
I think AMD's GPU focus is generally for the consoles now, they have scored stunning wins by supplying the CPU/GPU for the two major console players. There's enormous money in it. It'll keep them afloat.
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Profit margins are going to be very,very tight, most likely pence/cent per unit. Consoles are sold at a loss. AMD make profit but they make it work through the volumes.
 
KillBoY_UK said:
ahhh a mining driver, thats going to help
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It's a fix for a flaw in the existing drivers that was going to see Polaris (and Vega) mining performance tank next year as difficulty rises.

Some may consider that a good thing but a design flaw that affects compute performance is an issue of embarrassment for a GPU manufacturer.
 
FoxEye said:
The frequency/power curve isn't linear. Near max frequency possible the wattage required goes through the roof.

The 480 was already being pushed near its limits. When the 580 had something stupid like a 50Mhz bump the power shot up.
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Oh I knew it was just an overclocked RX 480 but I didn't know it was that bad, lol.

TheRealDeal said:
In most reviews the rx480 was using as much power or slightly more than a gtx1070. I think it was around 150-170w. Have you under volted?
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Yes but it's also overclocked - see sig.
 
peterpies said:
Profit margins are going to be very,very tight, most likely pence/cent per unit. Consoles are sold at a loss. AMD make profit but they make it work through the volumes.
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Consoles used to be sold at a loss. Pretty sure this time round Sony said they were earning profit straight out of the gate. Makes sense as older Gen consoles when released were high end but this gen they were already mid range at best. I am not sure on the ps4 pro or the new xbox coming out.
 
I'll grab a vega 56 reference so that I get the premium components. Then I'll strip it, mod it for an AIO while retaining the base plate and call it another 5 years. 4K is BS for gaming at decent frames on anything right now and will be for another 2 years. When that stuff is sorted I'll make that leap.

Not particularly impressed with this release but you have to take into account that AMD stopped dev on discrete pretty much and Raja pulled it back on and segregated the business. This was last years card but with the tech built in it'll hang on like the r9 290 well into the future, progressively using less watts, making less heat and more frames.

With the quality of the reference boards it will go for years too. AIB designs tend to be cheap on power components.
 
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