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Poll: The Vega Review Thread.

What do we think about Vega?

  • What has AMD been doing for the past 1-2 years?

  • It consumes how many watts and is how loud!!!

  • It is not that bad.

  • Want to buy but put off by pricing and warranty.

  • I will be buying one for sure (I own a Freesync monitor so have little choice).

  • Better red than dead.

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Hotwired said:
Are you arguing?

They promised the 480 at £175 and we got that, very briefly.

Maybe it wasn't clear enough this time? It's definitely not new for them to do it.
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Not arguing, showing you that they gave a 499$ msrp to the 64 without saying it was a limited time offer. THE NEW GPU KING under 500$ (but only for 15 minutes ....)
You're the one arguing.
There is no way to defend AMD, even AMD can't defend themselves otherwise they would have...

Take a step back, breath, come back and maybe you will see things with a different eye.

PS/ I could pick up a 480 msrp gpu 2 weeks after launch in France, we will see if the Vega follows the same suit, if it does and the vega 64 becomes available at msrp, no problem. What is important is what is going to come next, AMD could have easily came out and said "don't worry the card will be available at 500 msrp, you will have to wait for restock"
 
WeSbO said:
Not arguing, showing you that they gave a 499$ msrp to the 64 without saying it was a limited time offer. THE NEW GPU KING under 500$ (but only for 15 minutes ....)
You're the one arguing.
There is no way to defend AMD, even AMD can't defend themselves otherwise they would have...

Take a step back, breath, come back and maybe you will see things with a different eye.
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This to be honest.

Nowhere on that slide or anywhere else have I seen AMD say that price was just for a limited quantity. Deceiving :(
 
I'll just quote myself because I was editing while you posted.

Hotwired said:
Are you arguing?

They promised the 480 at £175 and we got that, very briefly.

Maybe it wasn't clear enough this time? It's definitely not new for them to do it.

I can't even recall if there was any difference between the kind of notice on launch pricing we had for vega and the 480 launch except there were more positives to talk about for 480.
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I have no special interest in defending anyone I just find it distasteful to bandwagon and can see different angles.

But really, was this different to the 480 stock limited low price launch.

Or is the difference that there's less stock and less positives.

I can't actually remember and will have to check it.

WeSbO said:
PS/ I could pick up a 480 msrp gpu 2 weeks after launch in France
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Really, the promoted price of 480 before launch was £175 and that price didn't last a day. When they sold out it was headed for £200.

That was for the fake 4GB models which could be flashed to 8GB. I'd need to check what the 8gb price was.
 
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Hotwired, the problem people have is that the change in price was only mentioned on launch day. SIGGRAPH was what, early july and the price was $499 sep from then till launch day? The point is, there was no mention of the increase until the day the cards launched, not by anyone. The issue isnt discounted cards at all, its that nobody said the launch price was discounted and on a very limited number of cards and also that all the reviews were based on the cards being available at those lower price points. It all stinks.
 
Indeed they should.

I'm trying to find if they said anything about limited stock when they launched the 480 at the unsustainable launch price before.

If not then maybe a bad habit that wasn't punished before because the 480 had many positives.
 
Hotwired said:
Are you arguing?

They promised the 480 at £175 and we got that, very briefly.

Maybe it wasn't clear enough this time? It's definitely not new for them to do it.

I can't even recall if there was any difference between the kind of notice on launch pricing we had for vega and the 480 launch except there were more positives to talk about for 480.
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Wasn't the 480 at £175 the 4GB card? When the limited stock ran out, the 8GB option was the only choice.
 
It seems like it's been done as a calculating move for all of the launch marketing and more favourable reviews and then when the price shoots up AMD can just blame high demand which again is a marketing trick when you've got **** all stock at launch, the trouble is vendors have enlightened the masses and every has seen the sleight of hand.
 
Hotwired said:
Yup it was but do you recall them saying beforehand it would be a restricted quantity that time?
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Does it even matter? the 4gb and 8gb cards were different SKUs. The comparison would only be valid if there were no 4gb 480s and it was the 8gb that was advertised at £175 RRP and then jacked up by AMD on launch day. That didnt happen. As far as i remember, everybody know the 4gb cards would be available and everybody knew it was a limited run.
 
james.miller said:
Does it even matter? the 4gb and 8gb cards were different SKUs. The comparison would only be valid if there were no 4gb 480s and it was the 8gb that was advertised at £175 RRP and then jacked up by AMD on launch day. That didnt happen.
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The comparison would be the lack of forewarning of limited stock at specially low launch price. If it didn't cause a problem last time why wouldn't they do it again.
 
I looked through that listed review, all the stats for the vega make it within the range of a 1080 on virtually every test at every res at high detail settings. Some it is 10% ahead, some 10% behind.
That isn't quite as terrible as I thought from the initial patterns on the thread.

Main issue is the hike in price then, and the power the card consumes?
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
I looked through that listed review, all the stats for the vega make it within the range of a 1080 on virtually every test at every res at high detail settings. Some it is 10% ahead, some 10% behind.
That isn't quite as terrible as I thought from the initial patterns on the thread.

Main issue is the hike in price then, and the power the card consumes?
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Basically. It eats energy and isn't a bargain.

Apart from that it kicks out fps like a 1080 in games and has freakishly strong compute performance that obliterates any other card pro versions or not in certain workloads. But gamers don't wanna hear that bit, obviously no good to them.
 
I am loosing the will to even read this thread now.

It seems to be quite simple, AMD said the card would retail at X amount. The card was reviewed using the figure that turned out to be a discounted limited stock figure.

Seems a bit deceptive to me. The very fact AMD are still stonewalling this shows me they know the mess they have created. Did they release a statement yet?
 
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