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Poll: The Vega Review Thread.

What do we think about Vega?

  • What has AMD been doing for the past 1-2 years?

  • It consumes how many watts and is how loud!!!

  • It is not that bad.

  • Want to buy but put off by pricing and warranty.

  • I will be buying one for sure (I own a Freesync monitor so have little choice).

  • Better red than dead.


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the whole gpu pricing looks wonky, i had a look at nvidia prices and found the most expensive 1070 cost more than the cheapest 1080 and the most expensive 1080 was the same price as the cheapest 1080 ti
 
I think the really expensive stuff they send back? Most I've viewed they said they only get to keep it for 3 - 5 days and have to send it back. Keyboards, mice, headsets, ram yadda yadda they get to keep.

Heck some reviewers got fancy steering wheels, direct drive and other fancy pedals to review but never got to keep them. Some did with a lot of persuasion but most don't get to keep the stuff.


Even Jay had to do a lot of hiney kissing to get the latest Titans for Terry Crews build. That was before when he already got the last Titans from them. He even spoke about it on one of his videos and from the sounds of it NVIDIA was seriously cheesed off with him.

Nvidia apparently fobbed him off with the "its a deep learning card" rhetoric. Then 2 showed up after he made a video about it.
 
At least nvidia have a card that actually performs when they launch a shiny new card. And no i don't agree with the FE strategy, however they did give a lower recommended rrp. Which vendors did not follow.

What do AMD have with VEGA? A card 15 months late, barely matching the opposition with double the TDP? And AMD launch and price it like this?

Almost as bad as launching a 980ti successor, charging £700 for it and providing around the same level of performance :)
 
Nvidia apparently fobbed him off with the "its a deep learning card" rhetoric. Then 2 showed up after he made a video about it.

Well he didnt get titans for terry crews pc, he put the ti's in it, and your right they said they arnt gaming cards they are compute cards. Then later when the fe came out titans suddenly became gaming cards. Who knew .....
 
Lol,you do realise the more noise he makes the more people watch his videos and the more money he makes.

There was nothing stopping him from buying all his own products for reviews years ago??

Even accepting products from AIB partners will have its concessions too.
 
Well he didnt get titans for terry crews pc, he put the ti's in it, and your right they said they arnt gaming cards they are compute cards. Then later when the fe came out titans suddenly became gaming cards. Who knew .....

The cards he got went into terry crews pc, 2 titan xp cards.


Says it in the spec and in the vid.
 
the whole gpu pricing looks wonky, i had a look at nvidia prices and found the most expensive 1070 cost more than the cheapest 1080 and the most expensive 1080 was the same price as the cheapest 1080 ti

Computer part prices are crazy and specially graphics cards. Never have I seen price fluctuate so much almost randomly and without reason. The nonsense about currency conversion price just does not cover it any more.
 
I don't see why people are making such a big deal of this - how many times have we had initial launch prices massively pushed up due to lack of volume??

Do enthusiasts have such short memories??

If the street price of the AMD Vega cards end up being too much,then simply look at the alternatives??

Its going to be same for any card - no review can predict short or longterm price fluctuations,or whether a game bundle will be added,etc.

You need to do a judgement on the day of purchase. I mean that is what even my mates do.

FFS,computer parts have fluctuated massively in price - look at RAM for example.

He basically said as much on twitter about reddit freaking out at him over the years and his subs and viewership going up.

I thought so.


Sorry if it has been asked before in this thread, but when is Vega 56 actually releasing?

The 28th.

Edit!!

As usual AMD PR sleepwalks into another disaster.
 
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Looks like my long streak of AMD cards (coming in from Matrox cards) is soon coming to an end. 7950 holding out still, and even if I upgrade, the only AMD card is a RX480/580 8GB. And that's assuming price is acceptable when I do. Can't believe the Vega launch was nearly as bad as the Matrox Parhelia; had high hopes for it. :(

My first x86 PC graphics adaptor was a Matrox G400 - fond memories! Sadly despite some nice features Parhelia took too long to get to market, didn't clock high enough and was priced too high to be competitive (hmm sounds familiar). The saddest thing was that it led to the duopoly in discrete graphics; we're in danger of it becoming a monopoly soon.
 
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My first x86 PC graphics adaptor was a Matrox G400 - fond memories! Sadly despite some nice features Parhelia took too long to get to market, didn't clock high enough and was priced too high to be competitive (hmm sounds familiar). The saddest thing was that it lead to the duopoly in discrete graphics; we're in danger of it becoming a monopoly soon.

Started with the Mystique back in 97, then G200 Marvel PCI later on. Finally migrated over to ATi 7500 and continued from there. After the failure of the Parhelia to get things going and lack of further trying from Matrox since then.

But back to the point, I certainly hope that a monopoly doesn't happen and AMD keeps trying. But AMD really needs to get a moving. Don't see why they would have slowed down so much after their 7900 series really. Wonder what happened?
 
  1. On release HD7970 was ~25% faster than stock GTX580 and overclocked like a champ. Yet 7970 was a failure and or overpriced because AIB heavily OC edition GTX580s were only 15% slower. Then GTX680 is released with less VRAM and similar speed somehow becomes the new king.
Also worth remembering that once newer drivers and BIOS updates had been released for the 7970 and 7950 it improved performance significantly and they were able to noticeably pull ahead of the 680/670 respectively (and as Nvidia had priced the 670 against the 7970 that made the AMD cards excellent bang for buck).
 
Im noticing something odd in vega benchmarks when going against nvidia gpus and hoping someone here can either test it or explain it to me. When the benchmarks are live on screen and they show the whole of what a system is doing in the top corner, vega is always using a lot less system ram. Why would vega use less system ram and why are nvidia cards using more system ram. I would have thought it would be different, espec as hbcc is on vega which should let it use system ram as a vram float.
 
Quite a lot of potential reasons - nVidia drivers do quite a bit of stuff in software which will use more RAM including hooking/intercepting DX API functions and forced threading models, etc. there is also some difference with the way shader caching (and probably other caching works) where stuff is kept resident in memory even if its not being used unless a low memory situation is encountered where it can be freed up to try and alleviate that.
 
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