The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

Matty8787 · 15 Dec 2022 at 18:53

Huxton said:
I don't think you realise how difficult it must have been to implement these new features in an engine that is what, 7/8 years old? Could you do a better job, for free?

2022 entitlement right there folks.

Eh they didn't work for free, the staff will have been paid.

And let's not ignore the fact that sales of this game will have shot back up with the TV series and hype of the update.

mrk · 15 Dec 2022 at 19:26

Some RT on vs off comparisons:

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RT off:

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GlitterBalls · 15 Dec 2022 at 19:29

Matty8787 said:
Eh they didn't work for free, the staff will have been paid.

And let's not ignore the fact that sales of this game will have shot back up with the TV series and hype of the update.

Yeah it's obvious sales are going to go up, but what pc gamer doesn't own one of the best games to ever be released? I'm sure the niggles will be resolved in due time.

GlitterBalls · 15 Dec 2022 at 19:31

@mrk ultrawide ultra with rt? Getting 60fps. Remind me why people are complaining again?

mrk · 15 Dec 2022 at 19:33

Yes Ultra+ with all the RT enabled. I have DLSS now set to Performance just to see what it is like in the above screenshots, can you tell?

I think DLSS has been done really well in this game, it's not like Cyberpunk where DLSS Performance has obvious glitching on light sources, this has no electric lights in game so looks fine lol.

DLSS Quality is 45-50fps, DLSS Balanced is 50-60fps, DLSS Performance appears to be 60fps baseline.

Now I will do the same comparison again when I get to Novigrad to see if it stays 60fps

Nexus18 · 15 Dec 2022 at 19:41

mrk said:
Some RT on vs off comparisons:

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RT off:

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Can't see a difference......

Daytrader · 15 Dec 2022 at 19:55

mrk said:
Some RT on vs off comparisons:

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RT off:

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think you have the RT on and RT off the wrong way around.

mrk · 15 Dec 2022 at 20:06

Think you are wrong

That's not how global illumination, shadows etc work within the scope of "real time" lighting.

Daytrader · 15 Dec 2022 at 20:11

mrk said:
Think you are wrong

That's not how global illumination, shadows etc work within the scope of "real time" lighting.

Well i will be more than happy if the game does like like that with RT enabled, as almost every RT game i have seen does the opposite, and brightens the dark parts inc shadows up.

GlitterBalls · 15 Dec 2022 at 20:15

Look at the puddles ffs lol

Daytrader · 15 Dec 2022 at 20:19

Huxton said:
Look at the puddles ffs lol

Haha, did not notice that, my bad then, i dont usually like how RT is done in games, but it looks like i will like W3 RT then, thx

HungryHippos · 15 Dec 2022 at 20:20

Huxton said:
Look at the puddles ffs lol

Also the framerate

ICDP · 15 Dec 2022 at 20:24

Huxton said:
Look at the puddles ffs lol

Absolutely, how could anybody not want those shiny puddles and some improved shading? They are totally worth the almost 50% drop in FPS.

ICDP · 15 Dec 2022 at 20:27

HungryHippos said:
Also the framerate

Are you implying the reflective puddles are not worth the FPS hit?

I don't think anyone rational is arguing RT can't look better when done right, it's just that most don't look at those screenshots and think "wow, so worth the FPS hit".

mrk · 15 Dec 2022 at 20:28

There is a value to accurate lighting and shadows though, some people will be all for it, some won't care either way. comparing side by side just click on one of those screenshots then use your arrow keys to flick between on and off and youb will see that it's more than just subtle differences. the RTGI especially.

ICDP said:
Absolutely, how could anybody not want those shiny puddles and some improved shading? They are totally worth the almost 50% drop in FPS.

Nothing is worth 50% drop in fps, but if it's at 60fps or above anyway, then the whole experience is more than fine especially on a VRR monitor. If you turned off the fps counter then I am confident nobody would know it was running at only 60fps, myself included.

ICDP · 15 Dec 2022 at 20:30

mrk said:
nothing is worth 50% drop in fps, but if it's at 60fps or above anyway, then the whole experience is more than fine especially on a VRR monitor. If you turned off the fps counter then I am confident nobody would know it was running at only 60fps, myself included.

Or they could save a fortune and buy a lower end GPU, get the same 60 FPS with an arguably minor drop in graphical quality and get the same experience.

GlitterBalls · 15 Dec 2022 at 20:32

60fps is fine imo, its not a competitive fps where you want high refresh rate/fps, visual glory and 60 fps is good in my book.

ltron · 15 Dec 2022 at 20:36

Huxton said:
I don't think you realise how difficult it must have been to implement these new features in an engine that is what, 7/8 years old? Could you do a better job, for free?

2022 entitlement right there folks.

This is not our problem, if CDPR couldn't do it they shouldn't have bothered. Why expose themselves to all this negative PR?

mrk · 15 Dec 2022 at 20:38

I forgot to add, my GPU is at 85% power limit in those above screenshots, so the fps would be 5 or so higher I guess if it was at stock

Meh.

GlitterBalls · 15 Dec 2022 at 20:39

ltron said:
This is not our problem, if CDPR couldn't do it they shouldn't have bothered. Why give themselves all this negative PR?

As mrk has shown it runs fine with ultra+, full RT and ultrawide getting a good 60fps. Along with other people. Your problem seems to fall into the "hardware not up to the task" category.