There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life

Ricahrd Dawkings Wrote a great article about other dangers as well - particularly Gerin Oil - a dangerous "drug" that is taking hold all over the world. Brilliant reading:

Gerin Oil (or Geriniol to give it its scientific name) is a powerful drug which acts directly on the central nervous system to produce a range of symptoms, often of an anti-social or self-damaging nature. It can permanently modify the child brain to produce adult disorders, including dangerous delusions which are hard to treat. The four doomed flights of September 11th 2001 were Gerin Oil trips: all nineteen of the hijackers were high on the drug at the time. Historically, Geriniolism was responsible for atrocities such as the Salem Witch Hunts and the massacres of Native South Americans by Conquistadores. Gerin Oil fuelled most of the wars of the European Middle Ages and, in more recent times, the carnage that attended the partitioning of the Indian subcontinent and of Ireland.

Gerin Oil intoxication can drive previously sane individuals to run away from a normally fulfilled human life and retreat to closed communities of confirmed addicts. These communities are usually limited to one sex only, and they vigorously, often obsessively, forbid sexual activity. Indeed, a tendency towards agonized sexual prohibition emerges as a drably recurring theme amid all the colourful variations of Gerin Oil symptomatology. Gerin Oil does not seem to reduce the libido per se, but it frequently leads to a preoccupation with reducing the sexual pleasure of others. A current example is the prurience with which many habitual 'Oilers' condemn homosexuality.

As with other drugs, refined Gerin Oil in low doses is largely harmless, and can serve as a lubricant on social occasions such as marriages, funerals, and state ceremonies. Experts differ over whether such social tripping, though harmless in itself, is a risk factor for upgrading to harder and more addictive forms of the drug.

Medium doses of Gerin Oil, though not in themselves dangerous, can distort perceptions of reality. Beliefs that have no basis in fact are immunized, by the drug's direct effects on the nervous system, against evidence from the real world. Oil-heads can be heard talking to thin air or muttering to themselves, apparently in the belief that private wishes so expressed will come true, even at the cost of other people's welfare and mild violation of the laws of physics. This autolocutory disorder is often accompanied by weird tics and hand gestures, manic stereotypies such as rhythmic head-nodding toward a wall, or Obsessive Compulsive Orientation Syndrome' (OCOS: facing towards the east five times a day).

Gerin Oil in strong doses is hallucinogenic. Hardcore mainliners may hear voices in the head, or experience visual illusions which seem to the sufferers so real that they often succeed in persuading others of their reality. An individual who convincingly reports high-grade hallucinations may be venerated, and even followed as some kind of leader, by others who regard themselves as less fortunate. Such follower-pathology can long post-date the original leader's death, and may expand into bizarre psychedelia such as the cannibalistic fantasy of 'drinking the blood and eating the flesh' of the leader.

Chronic abuse of Geriniol can lead to 'bad trips', in which the user suffers terrifying delusions, including fears of being tortured, not in the real world but in a postmortem fantasy world. Bad trips of this kind are bound up with a morbid punishment-lore which is as characteristic of this drug as the obsessive fear of sexuality already noted. The punishment-culture fostered by Gerin Oil ranges from 'smack' through 'lash' to getting 'stoned' (especially adulteresses and rape victims), and 'demanifestation' (amputation of one hand), up to the sinister fantasy of allo-punishment or 'cross-topping', the execution of one individual for the sins of others.

You might think that such a potentially dangerous and addictive drug would head the list of proscribed intoxicants, with exemplary sentences handed out for pushing it. But no, it is readily obtainable anywhere in the world and you don't even need a prescription. Professional traffickers are numerous, and organized in hierarchical cartels, openly trading on street corners and in purpose-made buildings. Some of these cartels are adept at fleecing poor people desperate to feed their habit. 'Godfathers' occupy influential positions in high places, and they have the ear of Royalty, of Presidents and Prime Ministers. Governments don't just turn a blind eye to the trade, they grant it tax-exempt status. Worse, they subsidize schools founded with the specific intention of getting children hooked.

I was prompted to write this article by the smiling face of a happy man in Bali. He was ecstatically greeting his death sentence for the brutal murder of large numbers of innocent holidaymakers whom he had never met, and against whom he bore no personal grudge. Some people in the court were shocked at his lack of remorse. Far from remorse, his response was one of obvious exhilaration. He punched the air, delirious with joy that he was to be 'martyred', to use the jargon of his group of abusers. Make no mistake about it, that beatific smile, looking forward with unalloyed pleasure to the firing squad, is the smile of a junkie. Here we have the archetypal mainliner, doped up with hard, unrefined, unadulterated, high-octane Gerin Oil.

Whatever your view of the vengeance and deterrence theories of capital punishment, it should be obvious that this case is special. Martyrdom is a strange revenge against those who crave it, and, far from deterring, it always recruits more martyrs than it kills. The important point is that the problem would not arise in the first place if children were protected from getting hooked on a drug with such a bad prognosis for their adult minds.
Yes I know it is an anagram.....;)
 
I have no objection to his comments or the comments of the Humanist society posting their opinions as long as they are qualified that they are opinions. For example, There is probably no God in my opinion. What is becoming to be quite irksome is the way in which some of these statements try to show themselves off as fact. It ought to be remembered that it is quite simply because it is an opinion, that they are allowed to post it: Nothing more.
 
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I do not see why the atheists should be allowed to preach their message and be seen as the 'good guys'

I disagree with this - no good will come of it. All it will do is stir hatred

I dislike with atheists preaching like this for the same reasons I dislike religious types doing it. It's one of the worst aspects of most organised religions, Organised atheism/humanism included.

Belief is a personal thing, and that's the key thing that both sides frequently miss when they start becoming concerned with organisation.
 
I do not see why the atheists should be allowed to preach their message and be seen as the 'good guys'

I disagree with this - no good will come of it. All it will do is stir hatred

I disagree with the first part. I think atheists should be allowed to voice there opinion. Fair enough it may start arguements but they are trying to do it in a non-violent way. I don't think we should be seen as the 'good-guys' so I am with you on that part though.
In my opinion, Religion = War...like I said that's my opinion before anyone starts going off on one.
 
Belief is a personal thing, and that's the key thing that both sides frequently miss when they start becoming concerned with organisation.
Its certainly the thing that Dawkins seems to conveniently miss. To stoop to this kind of a level represents a new low for him IMO.
 
Its certainly the thing that Dawkins seems to conveniently miss. To stoop to this kind of a level represents a new low for him IMO.

I especially like taking Dawkins' virus of the mind essay and comparing his behaviour to the symptoms of 'faith suffers', it is most enlightening as to the reality of his issues :)
 
Read this at school earlier. Girl I was sitting next to who is quite religious said she thought it was quite harsh.

Personally, I think it's a good idea. Didn't tell her that though ;)
 
The god delusion is awesome to read, and finally us atheists get somewhere to spread our views :)
Good times :D

2nd. But I also like the fact it's not being done in a violent way.
I think it's idiotic the way that some people go on about their religion (imo).

I don't have a single problem with people believing in something as it's their choice. I just don't like the idea that when atheists want to show the same sort of opinions, we get slated.
I used to work in a care home and when the church used to come in I would leave the room as it wasn't my place to be. I did it without any disrespect and yet, when asked, I got slated for saying I was a non-believer.

Should be the same for both sides.
 
I recommend you read the criticisms of it also before claiming it to be an awsome read: The Dawkins Delusion.

TDD is a poor, poor book. Whilst Dawkins book contained at least 50% material I have read elsewhere, at least it stands up to scrutiny.

TDD is so full of holes I don't even know where to begin...
 
Way I read it, it's not atheist or agnostic, it's just common sense. :p

Now, all that's needed is for a Christian/theist body to sue for libel, have it dealt with by the Courts on a defence of justification/fair comment, and there'll be a binding legal precedent that 'probably' there's no God, lol
 
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I have no objection to his comments or the comments of the Humanist society posting their opinions as long as they are qualified that they are opinions. For example, There is probably no God in my opinion. What is becoming to be quite irksome is the way in which some of these statements try to show themselves off as fact. It ought to be remembered that it is quite simply because it is an opinion, that they are allowed to post it: Nothing more.

Obviously the same rules should also apply to religions then?
 
Was I the only person who read God Delusion and didn't understand why everyone simply called Dawkins a preacher of atheism? I don't believe I ever once saw him say outright that God didn't exist, and his writing seemed more to be an attack on religion and it's effect on educating society and people through it's teaching rather than a denial of God and criticism of personal faith. I personally saw a man who seems just tired of sitting back and watching people's faith take over the way they saw the world. Ive just started reading The Blind Watchmaker, as it's been recommended as a fantastic read on the question of where we came from and the proess of evolution.

As for the buses, no doubt it will cause controversy, but again, it's less an attack on faith and more of an attack on religion. Either way, it's kind of nice I think; spend less time bickering about a God whose existence is built on shaky foundations and instead enjoy the world and life around you. At least you can be undeniably sure that exists.
 
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