This Business and Moment...

[rypt]

Another week, still no news / updates

Today was finally the day! more than a month after the panel interview.

I was formally offered and accepted the internal role - but with a twist...
I am going to do the new Team Lead role from London, with the option to move to the US.
I was strongly encouraged that it would be good for my career to move to the US, but that is not a pre-requisite for me accepting the new role.

The new role is a decent salary increase, so it feels like a win-win for me currently.


Have to say - I'm not entirely sure what to make of being able to do it from London. I was fully prepared to need to move to US.

I have a feeling this is due to some other recent headcount and org structure developments - as this never came up during other discussions, and in fact I was asked in the interviews to confirm that I understood this was a US based role, and that I was willing to relocate.

Interestingly what hasn't been worked out as yet ... is the new org structure, changes to my reporting line, will the team report to me, etc.

I would still like to push to move, but happier that this can now be done on my own timeframes. I'm thinking that ideally I'd move in March of next year...
It also gives me an opportunity to further discuss the salary when we £->$ conversation occurs for the move.

 

[NickK]

So my archnemisis has decided to leave and join one of our customer senior teams.

So basically he’s running before some difficult questions get asked as part of deployment. In reflection it is beneficial but given attitudes/politics it will end up finger pointing.


Happy for him but he’s being promoted to early - he’s explicity stated he’a not interested in people or money as part of his role.. yet he’s headed to a head of role…

He will also be our customer, so I’m expecting him to simply escalate repeatedly. Should be fun.

 

[NickK]

Today was finally the day! more than a month after the panel interview.

I was formally offered and accepted the internal role - but with a twist...
I am going to do the new Team Lead role from London, with the option to move to the US.
I was strongly encouraged that it would be good for my career to move to the US, but that is not a pre-requisite for me accepting the new role.

The new role is a decent salary increase, so it feels like a win-win for me currently.


Have to say - I'm not entirely sure what to make of being able to do it from London. I was fully prepared to need to move to US.

I have a feeling this is due to some other recent headcount and org structure developments - as this never came up during other discussions, and in fact I was asked in the interviews to confirm that I understood this was a US based role, and that I was willing to relocate.

Interestingly what hasn't been worked out as yet ... is the new org structure, changes to my reporting line, will the team report to me, etc.

I would still like to push to move, but happier that this can now be done on my own timeframes. I'm thinking that ideally I'd move in March of next year...
It also gives me an opportunity to further discuss the salary when we £->$ conversation occurs for the move.

They may be finding a MAGA greencard issue. Lots of changes and with trump inbound that’s going to get worse quickly.

 

[OG]

I'm having a bit of a 'career crisis', having generally just coasted by on what has felt like luck into decent IT roles I'm just having the realisation that I'm not 100% what I want to be doing longer term. I'm very aware that I'm hitting the upper end of salaries for the roles I have been doing in the past (Systems Engineer/Tech Lead) and realistically I want to start moving into a slightly different space outside of being as hands on as I have been previously.

In the past my career moves have always been reactionary - being disgruntled/unhappy, redundancies, moving across the country and so have ended up taking one of the first things that crops up and that I get an offer for. I had planned to start looking for something new recently that I actually want to do longer term and that offers progression into a Product Ownership space, in what feels like a very bizarre set of circumstances I have found out this week my current employer is making my role redundant. It's only a small company so there's no possibility to move onto something internally. I'm trying to be so careful about not just taking the first thing that appears but at the same time knowing I need to provide for my family certainly makes that tricky. I haven't agreed a redundancy package just yet but I hope I will have some amount of cushion to find a role that I genuinely feel excited about at a company that as decent progression available.

 

[NickK]

Product space is about knowing the market, and the customer’s better than they so. Think of it as sales where you have to actually answer for the sales you’ve made

You sound like me.

Dev through leading, architecting and project managing.
Switched as a product specialist on the product I built. The role in international business development. Then moved back into technical product management of parts of the portfolio. Got made redundant due to acquisition merger office politics.
Larger technical product management roles, then into blue sky commercial product management.
Even larger technical product management (multiple products with teams 70+). Got made redundant (50,0000 of 380,000 people) - but not before I built out the group board’s quantum computing response as a side of desk.
More presales with the likes of gov, US gov, defence, space, etc.
CTPO parachuted to solve problems on the CEO naughty step, and now a “product owner” (which is a laughable title - it’s own and sort the mess out for multiple operating companies and I have fun with C level)
Boring but the company is in flux so if I leave it, there will be 2 FTE left and there’s plenty of mess to straighten out.

 

[HangTime]

Today was finally the day! more than a month after the panel interview.

I was formally offered and accepted the internal role - but with a twist...
I am going to do the new Team Lead role from London, with the option to move to the US.
I was strongly encouraged that it would be good for my career to move to the US, but that is not a pre-requisite for me accepting the new role.

The new role is a decent salary increase, so it feels like a win-win for me currently.


Have to say - I'm not entirely sure what to make of being able to do it from London. I was fully prepared to need to move to US.

I have a feeling this is due to some other recent headcount and org structure developments - as this never came up during other discussions, and in fact I was asked in the interviews to confirm that I understood this was a US based role, and that I was willing to relocate.

Interestingly what hasn't been worked out as yet ... is the new org structure, changes to my reporting line, will the team report to me, etc.

I would still like to push to move, but happier that this can now be done on my own timeframes. I'm thinking that ideally I'd move in March of next year...
It also gives me an opportunity to further discuss the salary when we £->$ conversation occurs for the move.

One thing to be wary of is what this may mean for any relocation package, e.g. if you were taking the role in US day 1 would this carry any benefit (or disadvantage) in terms of when it comes to moving instead of you being a London based employee that has decided to move. This is assuming when you say the move is on your own timeframes it basically means that you are the one driving the move rather than them stumping up a relocation allowance because they want you to be based in US.

 

[Itchytrigg]

After 20 years in at my current company, I finally quit...opportunity came up at a start up with an old colleague whilst I was disillusioned and bored so figured why not....the role is much tighter to what I want to do though pay/benefits are mostly balancing each other out but future growth feels possible again.

I feel free, scared, elated, terrified and excited in equal proportions.