This is stupid and uncalled for

scorza said:
Which bit of Sharia law works well? The bits about executing homosexuals and adulterers? How can you honestly expect people to be tolerant of the muslim community when they are intolerant of everything else themselves?

My bad, I now believe its 1/3rd instead of 2/3rds.


Hey not our fault that you guys accept gay people with open arms....as for adulterers?? well i dont agree with them either but they arent just exclusive to muslims are they. Again not our problem/fault that you seem to accept them with open arms...

Crikey this topic has gone OT....lol
 
Spawn said:
Actually dude it does work but according to your lot of definition...it doesnt work but thats simply because you dont know the inner workings of sharia law....you would rather make your assumptions via the media and what they report.

Trust me Shariah doesn't work... especially for non Muslims

70% of people in this country would face death by stoning if it was fully integrated here (God Forbid)

>| Raoh |<
 
Spawn said:
Hey not our fault that you guys accept gay people with open arms....as for adulterers?? well i dont agree with them either but they arent just exclusive to muslims are they. Again not our problem/fault that you seem to accept them with open arms...

Crikey this topic has gone OT....lol

It is your fault for not realising that it is a foreign faith, though, and it is also your fault that a foreign fate can not dictate morals in a foreign land.

Europe is Christian.

Don't get me wrong, I disagree with the whole "omfgmuslimnazis" nonsense that the usual skinheads and other associated folks cry at the slightest of hints of muslim "non-compliance with english law and custom", but islam has been, is, and will be, foreign. It has no right or privilidge to demand its customs and morals are adhered to, or even respected, in a foreign society.

Islam does have the right for private worship, but that's where it ends.

A lot of the bad blood does stem from the perception that some bad sheep amongst your imams promote the adoption of islamic values and morals amongst the general populace, however, and this has to stop if Islam is to be accepted as a foreign fate, the way Buddhism has been accepted.

My 2p anywhoo.
 
Visage said:
That would have been MUCH funnier if the link went to a picture of your arse.....

lol. God, i know am goodlooking :o but with all these fixation on my picture takes the definition of goodlooking to another level :p :o ...You want a copy?
 
cleanbluesky said:
Let me educate...

1) One of the main condemnations about the cartoon protests was the call of violence involved. There is no threat of violence in involved in the pigs head protest.

Tell that to the pig :(
 
Ex-RoNiN said:
islam has been, is, and will be, foreign. It has no right or privilidge to demand its customs and morals are adhered to, or even respected, in a foreign society.

Indeed. How dare a religion founded in the middle east have a place in our society :mad:

/images Jesus wearing union jack boxers, swigging lager and attending NF meetings
 
Chronos-X said:
Indeed. How dare a religion founded in the middle east have a place in our society :mad:

Take your rant elsewhere, I did not say that.

I said it is in no position to impose its moralities on our society, I didn't say it can not stick about as a guest religion (like Buddhism) - these concepts are fundamentally different.
 
Visage said:
Muslims protesting agaisnt the actions of non muslims in an offensive manner (such as the cartoons protest) results in widespread condemnation from the usual suspects.

Non-Muslims protesting against the actions of muslims in an offensive manner (such as dumping a pigs head outside a mosque) results in a collective shrug of the shoulders from the usual suspects.

The hypocrisy is breathtaking.

Are you suggesting that violent demonstrations that call for people to be killed are equivalent to someone dumping a pigs head in the middle of the night?
Clearly the pigs head is intended to offend and is not a pleasant thing to do however the true hypocrisy seen here is yours. When muslims scream for blood you beg others to try and understand and to forgive. Yet here you condemn those who try to understand or excuse.

As for the pig ... well its tail formed a strange squiggle which looked a bit like Mohammed in arabic and like a certain burger king swirl it was offensive, indeed more so because it was on a pig, a hated animal and staple of British breakfasts for centuries. So to rectify this unnaceptable slur on Islam it was beheaded by the Taliban and the head was left as a warning to other pigs not to allow thier tails to grow into the wrong curls.

On the grand scale of offensiveness I find bombings, beheadings and riots to be far more offensive than a singular event of a pigs head being left near a mosque. Who knows perhaps it was simply a lord of the flies re-enactment ...
 
Visage said:
That makes no sense. If non-extremist muslims are not responsible for extremism then why should they be obliged to protest against it?

Who said that they were "obliged" to do so? Some people would like to see condemnation against muslim attrocities by muslims because their silence can be construed to imply approval of the attrocities.
Similarly you've said that the usual suspects are hypocrites for not being vocal in condemnation of the pigs head. Why should they be obliged to condemn it .......
 
Spawn said:
Yes but anyone with half a brain or some sort of intelligence would be able to make the distinction between the 2 groups of people...dont you think??

Only if they intergrate with both groups and have contact with non extremeists. If they find that all muslims isolate themselves away and refuse to integrate with the wider community then they'll not have much evidence that all muslims are not extremeists.
 
jezsoup said:
That really doesnt follow from my post at all?

I was just saying peopel from my congregations have been killed by Muslims in Pakistan for being christians and I said Id never wish retaliation on the level people on here are suggesting.

What level of retaliation are people suggesting? I've not seen anyone advocate any retaliation at all :confused:
 
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