This is stupid and uncalled for

Stolly · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:16

jezsoup said:
No they wouldnt!

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And I say that as a member of a congregation who has seen 2 missionaries being killed in Pakistan for being christians and holding a church in their house!

You'd rather be dead and have your church burnt down, than have a pile of manure for example dumped on the church doorstep ?

You god botherers sure have some strange ideas.....

toy_soldier · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:16

Spawn said:
Then they are pretty stupid/un-intelligent imho...plus pretty childish as well.

Just like the people who killed a nun because the pope offended them?

Yas786 · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:17

scorza said:
How? Do extremist muslims have a big sign above their head saying "I love Osama" or something? When something like 2/3rds of British muslims say they want to see Sharia law in the UK the lines get a bit blurry imo.

2/3rds???? where you getting your facts from??. Sharia law if practiced within the laws of islam works very well but you didnt know that i guess. Its not our fault that hatred preachers twist the words....or wait would you like us to change the Quran to suit you and your translations??.

Yas786 · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:17

toy_soldier said:
Just like the people who killed a nun because the pope offended them?

I suppose so but then they arent or werent the smartest crayons in the box were they??. If they were then they wouldnt have done such a thing

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toy_soldier · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:18

Spawn said:
or wait would you like us to change the Quran to suit you and your translations??.

Now that is irony if ever ive seen it.

jezsoup · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:19

Stolly said:
You'd rather be dead and have your church burnt down, than have a pile of manure for example dumped on the church doorstep ?

You god botherers sure have some strange ideas.....

That really doesnt follow from my post at all?

I was just saying peopel from my congregations have been killed by Muslims in Pakistan for being christians and I said Id never wish retaliation on the level people on here are suggesting.

Yas786 · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:19

toy_soldier said:
Now that is irony if ever ive seen it.

Maybe so but still doesnt answer my original question.

Ex-RoNiN · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:19

Figo signs for Newport - enraged Barca fans travel to Wales to pelt him yet again :eek:

Stolly · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:22

toy_soldier said:
Just like the people who killed a nun because the pope insulted them?

Funny thing is that sort of action doesn't really seem to provoke as much outrage in a lot of people than perhaps an inman being killed here in the UK would do.

Possibly some people expect muslims from third world countries to act like people from a thousand years ago.

Like a child that eats its own poop, its as if some people think we shouldn't expect anything better.

toy_soldier · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:23

Spawn said:
Maybe so but still doesnt answer my original question.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the only question you have directed towards me as far as I can see is:

Spawn said:
I suppose so but then they arent or werent the smartest crayons in the box were they??

Which, the way I understood it is a rhetorical question, unless you were actually expecting me to ease your mind and say "No they were not" :confused:

If you asked me something else which I have failed to notice then please point it out.

ElRazur · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:24

Spawn said:
2/3rds???? where you getting your facts from??. Sharia law if practiced within the laws of islam works very well .

Please, dont make me start. It doesnt simple. Iirc we've had this discussion before and you wasnt able to convince me that if works - e.g Miscarriage of justice? anyway, let's live it there. You think it works but i dont agree.

toy_soldier · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:25

ElRazur said:
Please, dont make me start. It doesnt simple. Iirc we've had this discussion before and you wasnt not able to convince me that if works - e.g Miscarriage of justice? anyway, let's live it there. You think it works but i dont agree.

What amazes me is that some muslims think it would work in a country where the majority of people are not muslim!

qwerty07 · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:29

Bombing innocent people is uncalled for

Yas786 · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:30

ElRazur said:
Please, dont make me start. It doesnt simple. Iirc we've had this discussion before and you not able to convince me that if works - e.g Miscarriage of justice? anyway, let's live it there. You think it works but i dont agree.

Actually dude it does work but according to your lot of definition...it doesnt work but thats simply because you dont know the inner workings of sharia law....you would rather make your assumptions via the media and what they report.
Granted that the countries that do practise Sharia Law arent practising it properly but then thats due to the muppets in charge who think its perfectly ok to change the law here and there to suit their own agenda

. but i guess you probably missed that and also dont we get massive miscarriages of justice in this country??...quite a few from what i can remember.

As i said and will say again for the last time, Sharia Law can work but it needs to be practised to the letter.
Anyways lets not get into this as this is neither the time nor place to talk about it...kinda going OT...by all means make another thread about it.

toy_soldier · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:30

qwerty07 said:
Bombing innocent people is uncalled for

Well said

/thread

ElRazur · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:30

toy_soldier said:
What amazes me is that some muslims think it would work in a country where the majority of people are not muslim!

Not to derail this thread, even in a muslim country, it dosent work. It is ruling the people by fear. According to spawn "when applied properly, it should work" but i dont know in what context he means that. Imo you cant get more sharia than saudi arabia yet there is rape, murder, and appauling human rights records. Allahu akbar.

Back on topic.

scorza · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:30

Spawn said:
2/3rds???? where you getting your facts from??. Sharia law if practiced within the laws of islam works very well but you didnt know that i guess. Its not our fault that hatred preachers twist the words....or wait would you like us to change the Quran to suit you and your translations??.

Which bit of Sharia law works well? The bits about executing homosexuals and adulterers? How can you honestly expect people to be tolerant of the muslim community when they are intolerant of everything else themselves?

My bad, I now believe its 1/3rd instead of 2/3rds.

Yas786 · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:32

toy_soldier said:
What amazes me is that some muslims think it would work in a country where the majority of people are not muslim!

Well if i was you, i wouldnt worry about it too much as i have no desire to see Sharia law being implemented here as it would curtail my lifestyle a bit too much and thats not something im fond of.....2/3rds isnt that big a majority to be honest...just makes me laugh when i hear people getting all worked up over something that really wont come into effect.

toy_soldier · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:34

Spawn said:
Well if i was you, i wouldnt worry about it too much as i have no desire to see Sharia law being implemented here as it would curtail my lifestyle a bit too much and thats not something im fond of.....2/3rds isnt that big a majority to be honest...just makes me laugh when i hear people getting all worked up over something that really wont come into effect.

Im not worried about it happening, I just dont understand how the muslims that want Sharia law in the UK think that it would work.

cleanbluesky · 29 Sep 2006 at 16:36

Visage said:
Muslims protesting agaisnt the actions of non muslims in an offensive manner (such as the cartoons protest) results in widespread condemnation from the usual suspects.

Non-Muslims protesting against the actions of muslims in an offensive manner (such as dumping a pigs head outside a mosque) results in a collective shrug of the shoulders from the usual suspects.

The hypocrisy is breathtaking.

Let me educate...

1) One of the main condemnations about the cartoon protests was the call of violence involved. There is no threat of violence in involved in the pigs head protest.

2) No-one has complained that Muslims should not be able to express themselves legally, they seem to have complained that they hold a specific ideology that we disagree with