This is stupid and uncalled for
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Muslims protesting agaisnt the actions of non muslims in an offensive manner (such as the cartoons protest) results in widespread condemnation from the usual suspects.
Non-Muslims protesting against the actions of muslims in an offensive manner (such as dumping a pigs head outside a mosque) results in a collective shrug of the shoulders from the usual suspects.
The hypocrisy is breathtaking.
Non-Muslims protesting against the actions of muslims in an offensive manner (such as dumping a pigs head outside a mosque) results in a collective shrug of the shoulders from the usual suspects.
The hypocrisy is breathtaking.
From where I am standing, I am not seeing peace and forgiveness preached to those who offend Islam, I see death threats and hatred of outsiders.
To all of you who practice religion, you insult me - you insult my intelligence and you insult my view of humanity. But I don't feel the need to make death threats, nor make political statements, nor cartoons about any religion. I don't feel the need to put others down, I let them get on with what they do, even if they insult atheists.
I have no corner to defend, for the world is my corner. Anyone may come up to me with an alternative view and I will give it my utmost consideration. However, those who are indoctrinated within one religion or another, independant of tradition or habit, will be *unable* to make the same claim.
This is the basic reason why religion cannot work. And the more violent and unstable a religion, the more work has to be put in to integrate with regular society.
And I don't see that work being done by muslims. I don't see *any* work being done to utterly villify those who perform evils in the name of islam. This, I believe the reason that integration isn't happening. Even if the work is being done, I don't *see* it.
A public protest by muslims against their extremist counterparts will do nicely.
To all of you who practice religion, you insult me - you insult my intelligence and you insult my view of humanity. But I don't feel the need to make death threats, nor make political statements, nor cartoons about any religion. I don't feel the need to put others down, I let them get on with what they do, even if they insult atheists.
I have no corner to defend, for the world is my corner. Anyone may come up to me with an alternative view and I will give it my utmost consideration. However, those who are indoctrinated within one religion or another, independant of tradition or habit, will be *unable* to make the same claim.
This is the basic reason why religion cannot work. And the more violent and unstable a religion, the more work has to be put in to integrate with regular society.
And I don't see that work being done by muslims. I don't see *any* work being done to utterly villify those who perform evils in the name of islam. This, I believe the reason that integration isn't happening. Even if the work is being done, I don't *see* it.
A public protest by muslims against their extremist counterparts will do nicely.
Shoseki said:
As i said before how very grown up of u...so religious people insult you??...nice. But yet you say you dont feel the need to put others down but shockingly you have just made the comment that religious people insult you and your so called intelligence...from where im standing i dont see much of this supposed intelligence that you speak of
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Shoseki said:
Id love to see that.
Chronos-X said:
Well, putting a pigs head outside a mosque is no where near as bad as killing innocent people, whoever did this, did something which gets a point across without harming people, which earns him/her much more respect from me than any islamic terrorist.
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Visage said:
And what can be done about it? It would be far easier and better if the majority of the muslims (non extremists) stood up against the extremists and distanced themselves from them as apposed to trying to alter how so many ignorants think.
Spawn said:
How? Do extremist muslims have a big sign above their head saying "I love Osama" or something? When something like 2/3rds of British muslims say they want to see Sharia law in the UK the lines get a bit blurry imo.
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Spawn said:
Sure, but what if they dont want to?
jezsoup said:
Which we have in the past ie spoken out against them and condemned their actions time and time again but as i said and Visgae said earlier...its down to peoples ignorance thats causing the most grief.
Seems pretty silly to me, but not a million miles away from any offense caused to catholics by burning effigies of Guy Fawkes each year.
Personaly I'm not religious and pretty open minded about such things, free speach and protest should be allowed, but at the same time it does seem a little hurtful towards Muslims to do this - but this is a price we pay now and then for our liberty and freedom of speech.
Personaly I'm not religious and pretty open minded about such things, free speach and protest should be allowed, but at the same time it does seem a little hurtful towards Muslims to do this - but this is a price we pay now and then for our liberty and freedom of speech.