This is why people are losing respect for the police...

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Cop says he knee'd and punched Andre Moura as he 'had hold of my testicles'

Christian Bolger was one of three officers who began struggling with Andre Moura, 30, after his arrest outside his home in Oldhamin July 2018
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Police officer who went sick after Manchester bombing 'faked illness'

Christian Bolger, 48, was sacked from the force after he took over three-weeks off due to a 'bad back' but later competed in body building contests while spraying himself with gold fake tan.
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CaptainRAVE said:
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Ex-fiancée of killer fears he will hunt her down after she went undercover for police

Caroline Muirhead helped solve the mystery surrounding Tony Parsons, who vanished during a charity bike ride in September 2017. Her ex Alexander McKellar eventually pleaded guilty to culpable homicide and was jailed on Friday.
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Well her first mistake was trusting the police, of course they used her.
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That’s awful. The institution just attracts too many of the wrong sort of people.
 
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Dis86 said:
What's 'the institution' got to do with that?
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I think it's more the money cutbacks that means they are unable to properly complete the background checks.

I watched a program a while ago about Wayne Couzens on channel 5.

They had a retired police officer who said that due to the cost cutting cutbacks, they were letting in people who shouldn't be passing them.
 
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It doesn't inspire confidence when the Met is hacked, exposing police details and credentials.

This is on the back of the Northern Ireland police breach.

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Met Police IT security breach could do 'incalculable damage in the wrong hands'

The security breach took place when cybercriminals successfully breached the IT systems of a contractor in charge of producing warrant cards and staff passes.
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I wonder if these two incidents are connected? It seems very coincidental.

It also raises questions of the levels of security of other databases. What happens if the PNC gets attacked and wiped?
 
It's a matter of when and not if when data is concerned, if it has value it will be stolen eventually.

I think we should institute legislation that makes it so unauthorised access to systems is treated as a violent act that you can physically defend yourself from.
 
BowdonUK said:
It doesn't inspire confidence when the Met is hacked, exposing police details and credentials.

This is on the back of the Northern Ireland police breach.

news.sky.com

Met Police IT security breach could do 'incalculable damage in the wrong hands'

The security breach took place when cybercriminals successfully breached the IT systems of a contractor in charge of producing warrant cards and staff passes.
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I wonder if these two incidents are connected? It seems very coincidental.
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They weren't hacked, a private company was. The PSNI incident involved human error when providing data for an FOI request, the two incidents are entirely different.
 
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TheVoice said:
They weren't hacked, a private company was. The PSNI incident involved human error when providing data for an FOI request, the two incidents are entirely different.
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I accept your clarification. But the end result is private information has been leaked into the public domain. In the Northern Ireland situation we already know of one terrorist group using that information to cause intimidation.

My original point still stands that if the police can't maintain a secure system, even if it's a private company running the system it is still the police that is responsible, then it doesn't give confidence to the public.
 
BowdonUK said:
I accept your clarification. But the end result is private information has been leaked into the public domain. In the Northern Ireland situation we already know of one terrorist group using that information to cause intimidation.

My original point still stands that if the police can't maintain a secure system, even if it's a private company running the system it is still the police that is responsible, then it doesn't give confidence to the public.
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The supplier will have (or should) been vetted to some extent and would have had to meet specific security requirements, but the police aren't responsible for a private sector supplier's cyber-security, just the same as they wouldn't be responsible if someone had broken in and physically taken the drives.

Given that ID cards are something used by all HO and government organisations perhaps there should be an in-house solution rather than an external profit-driven one.
 
CaptainRAVE said:
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Ex-fiancée of killer fears he will hunt her down after she went undercover for police

Caroline Muirhead helped solve the mystery surrounding Tony Parsons, who vanished during a charity bike ride in September 2017. Her ex Alexander McKellar eventually pleaded guilty to culpable homicide and was jailed on Friday.
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Well her first mistake was trusting the police, of course they used her.
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What were the police supposed to do?

She was never going to remain anonymous if she testified (which seems to have been the key evidence) and the real problem here is the scum who are terrorising the woman for bringing a killer to justice for manslaughter.
 
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