This is why people are losing respect for the police...

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hurfdurf said:
It certainly feels normalised now. I’ll stand and bang with anyone but I’m way way way more conscious that if they are skinny little universal credit mouth breathers I’ve got to properly put them down if they start reaching for anything in their pockets or trousers. This wasn’t something I used to be conscious of when dealing with people, it is now.

I don’t remember 20 years ago machete fights in London being a daily thing.
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What do you expect with an underfunded police force? How are they supposed to tackle crime/gangs?
 
hurfdurf said:
It certainly feels normalised now. I’ll stand and bang with anyone but I’m way way way more conscious that if they are skinny little universal credit mouth breathers I’ve got to properly put them down if they start reaching for anything in their pockets or trousers. This wasn’t something I used to be conscious of when dealing with people, it is now.

I don’t remember 20 years ago machete fights in London being a daily thing.
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Got to make sure they pay you first before you stand and bang?
 
GarethSouthgate said:
What do you expect with an underfunded police force? How are they supposed to tackle crime/gangs?
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It’s not just the police that need funding for this, by the time you have the police involved these kids are already lost. We need to tackle the causes of gang culture and stop kids getting drawn in before they are lost. That would mean tackling in equality in society and eradicating poverty all things that cost money and people don’t like. Everyone is up for locking up criminals at vast expense nobody is up for investing in tackling the causes of crime.
 
I think if they brought back the death penalty it could open up a lot of space in the prisons then maximum sentences become the minimum and society might just be saved.
 
GIBURROWS said:
I think if they brought back the death penalty it could open up a lot of space in the prisons then maximum sentences become the minimum and society might just be saved.
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Nothing will happen until its an MP, Not suggesting they would bring back the death sentence... but the status quo will continue.

Wasn't that long they were saying they wanted personal protection.... seems like it's the public who needs protecting
Von Smallhausen said:
Capital punishment has no place in modern society.
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It's preferable to this

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Men try ‘hostel life’ – in a Cat C prison

In a unique experiment, four lifers are living in a ‘hostel’ within the walls of a closed prison – where they sleep on comfy mattresses, cook with meal kits from HelloFresh and Gousto, and throw di…
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You have to double take at "lifers" and wonder what it means....


In a unique experiment, four lifers are living in a ‘hostel’ within the walls of a closed prison – where they sleep on comfy mattresses, cook with meal kits from HelloFresh and Gousto, and throw dinner parties for governors.

The aim is to recreate the experience of life in an Approved Premises, for men who will soon be granted parole after years inside.

The ‘Approved Premises Unit’ opened in October 2022 at an unnamed Category C men’s prison in England. The four-bedroom portable building, overlooked by regular cellblocks, is unlocked and unstaffed all day. Its residents can come and go, making their own way to their prison jobs.

The experiment was revealed last month at the annual conference of the British Psychological Society’s Division of Forensic Psychology, in Cardiff. Katy Burgess, a psychologist with HM Prison and Probation Service who is evaluating the scheme, said prisoners liked it, but added: “Some staff thought it was a little bit of a step too far.”

Previously, lifers and IPP prisoners spent time at open prisons before release, but the last government blocked many men from reaching one – prompting this alternative.
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Whats a life sentence now 10 years?
 
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GIBURROWS said:
I think if they brought back the death penalty it could open up a lot of space in the prisons then maximum sentences become the minimum and society might just be saved.
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No. Firstly you might execute an innocent person. Second, you prevent the convicted from repenting and reforming. Third, the lack of a death penalty means it's safer for police as the arrested knows that they can safely surrender; otherwise they might decide to go out in a blaze of infamy, taking innocents with them.
 
Quartz said:
No. Firstly you might execute an innocent person. Second, you prevent the convicted from repenting and reforming. Third, the lack of a death penalty means it's safer for police as the arrested knows that they can safely surrender; otherwise they might decide to go out in a blaze of infamy, taking innocents with them.
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Ridiculous, they've imprisoned innocents so maybe we should ban prisons?!?
 
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