This is why people are losing respect for the police...

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Police look massively outnumbered for starters.

Also, that's a protest not a riot. I can't see any police vans being burned there. Presumably if it turns into a riot then people will.be arrested, like they were in Harehills.
They weren't burning last night either, police were filmed just randomly picking out people from a crowd just standing there. They even tried to arrest a GBN jurno and had to immediately unarrest him.
 
Absolutely not. However, according to wikipedia, since 2005, almost all terrorist attacks in the Uk have been undertaken by Islamist's. Spin that however which way you like.
It means there are clearly major issues out there with terrorist groups/fanatics/radicalism.

It doesn't mean that mosques deserve to be smashed in when a bloke from Cardiff stabs kids. Nor does it mean all Muslims are responsible for terrorism.

Are all English people responsible for the people who attacked the police in Southport and set fire to the police van?
 
Many Reform MPs are massive far right bigots. And I'm sure Labour/Lefties would cheerlead right wingers staying in there Reform lane. Because as long as that happens Labour will maintain power

The reform party is the biggest assistant to Labour in decades
It won't be for decades. It'll be over 1 or 2 elections. There is a battle for the right wing vote, just like what happened between the NF and BNP. One party declines as another party rises.

The "far right" are cannibalising the Conservative vote.

People, maybe Starmer too, are living in the past.

At each election millions more people are voting for the "far right". Eventually people are going to have to start to take the concerns seriously.

The last election was about the rise of Reform UK. I underestimated think size of their victory.

If Starmer isn't careful Labour are going to have a white problem to add to the Jewish and Muslim problems.
 
They weren't burning last night either, police were filmed just randomly picking out people from a crowd just standing there. They even tried to arrest a GBN jurno and had to immediately unarrest him.
That's been covered in the thread already.

And yes a police van was set on fire yesterday. Some on here thought the violence was justified, because of immigration.
 
It means there are clearly major issues out there with terrorist groups/fanatics/radicalism.

It certainly does. However twotierkier comes out today prattling on about a non existing "Far right"
It doesn't mean that mosques deserve to be smashed in when a bloke from Cardiff stabs kids. Nor does it mean all Muslims are responsible for terrorism.
100% agree on both points. However, when almost all terror atrocities are carried out by muslims people start getting narked especially when the focus is always on this supposed "far right".
Are all English people responsible for the people who attacked the police in Southport and set fire to the police van?
Of course not, but when a minority in that crowd were responsible, it does not help when Starmer paints them all as "far right"
 
Please quote which guys have lumped all muslims in with terrorists.

I asked which group of rioting/protesting people were a bigger public risk. Dis said Muslims. You agreed.

His explanation was based on most of the recent terrorist activity being completed by Muslims.

Whilst that statement is true, the argument was poor, based on the fact that the terrorist bombings were mostly conducted by radical individuals, not crowds or groups of people as the question asked. You agreed with his explanation.

I called you both out as hypocrites because you think it's unfair that a crowd is being labelled as far right/extreme, when it appears you did exactly the same thing with a Muslim crowd.
 
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I asked which group of rioting/protesting people were a bigger public risk. Dis said Muslims. You agreed.

His explanation was based on most of the recent terrorist activity being completed by Muslims.

Whilst that statement is true, the argument was poor, based on the fact that the terrorist bombings were mostly conducted by radical individuals, not crowds or groups of people as the question asked. You agreed with his explanation.

I called you both out as hypocrites because you think it's unfair that a crowd is being labelled as far right/extreme, when it appears you did exactly the same thing with a Muslim crowd.

Don't worry yourself with who liked who's post or whatever. My question to you was which guys lumped all muslims in with terrorists?

Please quote which guys have lumped all muslims in with terrorists.

After you said.

Are you guys seriously complaining about painting a 'minority of crowd' as far right, yet you're quite happy to lump every Muslim in with terrorists?

That's incredibly hypocritical.
 
Don't worry yourself with who liked who's post or whatever. My question to you was which guys lumped all muslims in with terrorists?



After you said.


Dis stated that a Muslim group is more dangerous than a white group, based on his statement that reads 'terrorist individuals have been Muslims, therefore a group of Muslims poses the biggest public risk .'

By tarring the entire group based on the actions of a small number of it's potential members, you have inadvertently lumped everyone in, and are treating them, as terrorists.
 
Dis stated that a Muslim group is more dangerous than a white group, based on his statement that reads 'terrorist individuals have been Muslims, therefore a group of Muslims poses the biggest public risk .'

By tarring the entire group based on the actions of a small number of it's potential members, you have inadvertently lumped everyone in, and are treating them, as terrorists.


It doesn't matter what it "reads like". That's only your misguided perception of a group of words.

Are you guys seriously complaining about painting a 'minority of crowd' as far right, yet you're quite happy to lump every Muslim in with terrorists?

Quote me who lumped all muslims in with terrorists. If you cannot, then retract your stupid statement, take it on the chin and get on with your life. I'm getting up at 8 to take my son and daughters swimming.
 
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