This is why people are losing respect for the police...

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Hope the police are filming at all these riots, (even outside the court hearing) like for Gaza marches, to do some AI face recognition, then prosecution of the culprits,
those people burning the police cars were not so discrete.
 
jpaul said:
Hope the police are filming at all these riots, (even outside the court hearing) like for Gaza marches, to do some AI face recognition, then prosecution of the culprits,
those people burning the police cars were not so discrete.
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IIRC the police have been doing video and still surveillance of pretty much every major or potentially violent protest since the 80's or 90's, going way back to Marsh Farm riots back in the 90's the police were arresting large numbers of people after the "fun" because they'd got specialist officers whose primary job was to go in with the front line crew and basically get pictures of everyone of interest (effectively anyone actually throwing stuff/fighting etc).
They don't even need the (often poor quality/dodgy*) "AI", as most of the police forces have at least a few officers who are exceptionally good at face recognition and often specialise in things like spotting known muggers/shoplifters in crowded areas.

It's one of the reasons the police in many cases don't go in heavy handed like they used to, they found out a very long time ago that unless third parties were in danger it was far better to try and contain it, then either arrest people as they leave, or in the days following. IIRC it turns out it tends to result in the actual protests/riots calming down faster on the night, and leads to far fewer casualties on all sides, with less serious property damage. It also means they potentially have more time to get the proper fully trained and equipped teams in place as opposed to the general rank and file who only have the base level of training and possibly a refresher course a few years ago.


*They might be improving in facial recognition, but most of the data sets used for it were exceptionally heavily flawed until a handful of years ago, as they tended to use photos from common stock images that didn't represent the actual population IIRC it turned out at least one of the major ones that was being sold to police forces in the US had basically been trained on a combination of Seers type models and face shots from the acting agencies, and prison photos.
 
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R3dRaven said:
From Low Moor, South Bradford. The Mrs and I are saving up to get out, Its not all too bad where i am, but my god the city center is an absolute dive now.

Thing is Bradford is not alone with these issues, if you don't live or have lived in these areas and see it first hand you've never believe it, and unfortunately (not for them) most have and never will see it and wont understand how frustrating it is too see their city or town being run into the ground by all the above.

Still the best place for a curry tho :cry:
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Low Moor was a pretty good working class area from what I know of it and 1 of the better areas of Bradford. I used to live near Asda off Rooley Ave. I used to have a neighbour spying on my missus breast feeding and harassing us in loads of ways. It was a nice street other than that nutcase.

Do you mind me asking why do you want to move out? I mean you're away from the council estates and rougher areas. Do you think it's got more rundown or are you just looking for a better school district or something?

The city centre in Bradford has been a sh1thole for a long time but most city centres are tbf.

If you do move certain areas of Halifax or Huddersfield could be good places to move to, if you're looking for good school districts. If schools aren't an issue you have loads more options though and Low Moor is a decent area in it's own right
 
Forget the police, people don't have respect for each other. Social media has driven a massive wedge between families and friends, has given a voice to fringe groups and made a mockery of freedom of speech, our ability to critically think, and has undermined democracy and community.
 
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bloodiedathame said:
Forger the police, people don't have respect for each other. Social media has driven a massive wedge between families and friends, has given a voice to fringe groups and made a mockery of freedom of speech, our ability to critically think, and has undermined democracy and community.
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It really has been the downfall of a lot of society. People are only driven by differences and nothing unites them.
 
If people think Farage, Reform UK, the Conservatives, are fascists then they have never read a book about the Nazis.

Fascist and racist have been overused and now have no shock value at all, especially when the labels are being wrongly ascribed.

The numbers of active people and sympathizers to the "far right" are growing. It's not the small band of fanatics like it was in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Back then it was nearly 100% male. Now many women are involved, as they are in similar movements across Europe.

The fact Reform UK got 5 people elected to be MP's, with Anderson retaining his seat means there are 1000's of people in each constituency*. The Tories are crashing because Reform are rising.

If you really think these people are fascists, then in the next few years you'll be living in a nightmare if things carry on this trajectory.

No far right party person in UK history as ever been elected as an MP until this election.

If we go off voting figures there is over 4 million Reform UK voters. There will be more supporters as that white working class tend to not vote.

In context that is more people than who voted Lib Dem. Only 2 million behind the Tories, and 5 million behind Labour.
 
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BowdonUK said:
If people think Farage, Reform UK, the Conservatives, are fascists then they have never read a book about the Nazis.

Fascist and racist have been overused and now have no shock value at all, especially when the labels are being wrongly ascribed.

The numbers of active people and sympathizers to the "far right" are growing. It's not the small band of fanatics like it was in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Back then it was nearly 100% male. Now many women are involved, as they are in similar movements across Europe.

The fact Reform UK got 5 people elected to be MP's, with Anderson retaining his seat means there are 1000's of people in each constituency*. The Tories are crashing because Reform are rising.

If you really think these people are fascists, then in the next few years you'll be living in a nightmare if things carry on this trajectory.

No far right party person in UK history as ever been elected as an MP until this election.

If we go off voting figures there is over 4 million Reform UK voters. There will be more supporters as that white working class tend to not vote.

In context that is more people than who voted Lib Dem. Only 2 million behind the Tories, and 5 million behind Labour.
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Many Reform MPs are massive far right bigots. And I'm sure Labour/Lefties would cheerlead right wingers staying in there Reform lane. Because as long as that happens Labour will maintain power

The reform party is the biggest assistant to Labour in decades
 
You do realise fascist is a form of government and ideology with varying degrees of extremism? Don’t conflate fascist and nazi. Think of it like all Nazis were fascists, but not all fascists were Nazis.

Spain was fascist until 1975. Italy was fascist and nowhere as extreme as Germany and in fact offered to join the allies in WWII if the price was right.

I’m not saying there are good fascists, just that like all ideological views, it is a sliding scale.
 
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bloodiedathame said:
One group is sober and shouting 'God is great'.

The other are probably drunk, coked off their **** shouting 'never surrender'.

Which group is more likely to pose a public risk?
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The one responsible for 94 out of 97 terrorist killings since 2010?

Sorry, I believe that's 95 out of 98 now.
 
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