can get a 2080 super with a 2k budget with a 3900x. which is my point i made exactly:
with that being said...OP seems to want to stick 100% with ocuk. so the above build isn't possible.
Thoughts on this build?
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can get a 2080 super with a 2k budget with a 3900x. which is my point i made exactly:
with that being said...OP seems to want to stick 100% with ocuk. so the above build isn't possible.
Yeah, that's what my reply/2K was based on - have to respect the OP's wishes - but can understand why some members want the convenience of one stop shop with complete new builds (one recent thread comes to mind).
Breathe @tamzzy...
But, that layered (different outlets) build is great value for the money - but if he wants bought at OcUK - the 3700X with the 2080s, would see minimal performance difference and he has his one retailer safety net.
Could be he can muster up the additional extra after reading all our bull****.
For OP's direct comparison:
Bit of shopping around - a 2080Super with far right tendencies ~£2000
Similar build but with 2070S for similar money
Bit of shopping around - a 2080Super with far right tendencies ~£2000
Similar build but with 2070S for similar money
against my better judgement, full ocuk build:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
- 1 x AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Twelve Core 4.6GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £479.99
- 1 x Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus Wi-Fi (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 Chipset ATX Motherboard= £239.99
- 1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 32GB 3200 MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Kit= £179.99
- 1 x Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER Dual EVO OC 8192MB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £475.00
- 2 x Corsair Force MP510 series 960GB NVMe PCIe M.2 Solid State Drive (CSSD-F960GBMP510)= £139.99
- 1 x Corsair RMx Series RMx650 650W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply (CP-9020178-UK)= £89.99
- 1 x Scythe SCMG-5100 Mugen 5 Rev.B CPU Cooler= £42.95
- 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P600S Silent Midi Tower Case - Black= £127.99
Total: £1,930.58 (includes shipping: £14.70)
Indeed. Hence why I've done an ocuk spec.
I'd like to think that it breaks up the dreary monotony of build specs...
You'll recover with time - we'll set up a group
Well, we've so far made a 2 page thread into 5. We've either broken monotony or his head has spun off through indecision as he's not replied...I'd like to think that it breaks up the dreary monotony of build specs...
(Clearly your fault - i was go with the flow Joe, distracting myself from my hangover. You can't come into a thread making salient points and confusing issues
)pfft...we'll need to set up an ocuk AA group for you tbhYou'll recover with time - we'll set up a group
(but that being said, alcoholics rarely are hungover - because they're perpetually drunk!)
3 pages. 40 posts per page is what the cool people use!
ikr. walk in. break stuff. walk out. leave the survivors to deal with the fall out...(Clearly your fault - i was go with the flow Joe, distracting myself from my hangover. You can't come into a thread making salient points and confusing issues
Wouldn't go - too Jesus/ie/y (culty <--- risque word to type, one slip...)pfft...we'll need to set up an ocuk AA group for you tbh
(but that being said, alcoholics rarely are hungover - because they're perpetually drunk!)
Very rare for me to get drunk - haven't been properly drunk in years (can't really preach to your kids if you get drunk/drink a lot). I only drink at weekends (and if in hotels - doesn't count) and this hangover was due to speed rather than amount - back late, a few bottles of Becks with a couple of 15 year Malts and couldn't eat the cold dinner lovingly left for me (courtesy of gorgeous wife - she looking over my shoulder, as i laughed earlier. ANd now she's just hit me...). I think my hangover is more a result of dehydration from lack of coffee/hydration during the day - who serves serves 'just' Tea and soft drinks at a meeting :/
Although, now exacerbated by battering from wife armed with a very effective John Lewis magazine (is it lined with lead?).
Irony being your spec fixed it...ikr. walk in. break stuff. walk out. leave the survivors to deal with the fall out...
...but not giving you credit, still was all over the shop (literally
)#justbelieve
all over the shopSstill was all over the shop (literally
OP mightn't have had a problem with the spec, if shop was in the singular
That was the joke - ruined by my omission of a singular S (the plural now being the irony)
I don't think there would have been an issue with your spec, at all, had OcUK had all the parts/price - as nothing to contest: no case window, components on parity or better plus on budget. (Hey, stop making me justify your build - this is 'discrete coercion'.)OP mightn't have had a problem with the spec, if shop was in the singular
My basket at Overclockers UK:
I appreciate all the comments, pure fps/gaming isn't my only priority, quietness is just as important (I watch a lot of movies and youtube). I picked the 2070S as someone pointed out the large triple fans, thus it runs a little cooler and quieter. Reading around the noctua certainly seems the best and probably quietest? Saving £50-£100 to shop on a £2000 build that will last me 5 years isn't a huge deal.
- 1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 32GB 3200 MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Kit= £179.99
- 1 x Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut High Performance Thermal Paste - 1 Gramm= £4.99
- 1 x Noctua NM-AM4 Mounting Kit= £6.49
- 1 x AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Twelve Core 4.6GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £479.99
- 1 x EVGA Supernova P2 650W 80 Plus Platinum Modular Power Supply= £99.95
- 2 x Corsair Force MP510 series 960GB NVMe PCIe M.2 Solid State Drive (CSSD-F960GBMP510)= £139.99
- 1 x Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 Chipset ATX Motherboard= £209.99
- 1 x Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER WindForce OC 8192MB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £499.99
- 1 x Noctua NH-D15 Dual Radiator Quiet CPU Cooler with two NH-A15 Fans= £84.95
- 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P600S Silent Midi Tower Case - Black= £127.99
Total: £1,990.21 (includes shipping: £15.90)
I appreciate all the comments, pure fps/gaming isn't my only priority, quietness is just as important (I watch a lot of movies and youtube). I picked the 2070S as someone pointed out the large triple fans, thus it runs a little cooler and quieter. Reading around the noctua certainly seems the best and probably quietest? Saving £50-£100 to shop on a £2000 build that will last me 5 years isn't a huge deal.
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Urg, Asus VRMs .
Asus rep still hadn't got back to me about doing a video of Asus Twin phase set up being superior Vs straight 12-14 pause set up Vs doubles...
Asus rep still hadn't got back to me about doing a video of Asus Twin phase set up being superior Vs straight 12-14 pause set up Vs doubles...
You had me at quiet.
Avoiding the new Radeon cards helped a lot (shame, noisy hotboxes), yes the D15 is the go to cooler for 'minor' differences in relative silence, good choice of TIM, memory/overall price is what it is - but can appreciate wanting to avoid troubleshooting hassle.
Headphones/when gaming - add to cart.
They're all noisy once ramped up - but thankfully not Radeon blower noisy :/. I have my curve set to kick in at 70 degrees - works very well, but don't play demanding games (when i play). I rarely use headphones as need to listen out for kiddies when asleep...
Should add - I have combo of MSI and Gigabyte cards.
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Saving grace if it's a little louder, 4 yr warranty . Just don't forget to register it
Thinking more of @tamzzy's last post (large heatsink on GPU) - and ignoring your budget/tied to one shop for this post:
@mcast what MMOs do you play?
So, to add further confusion and thinking of how i view relative silence - i would always opt for a large heatsink card with decent fans - MSI 2070 Super would interest me as would that ASUS (but it is Asus :/) - both 2 point plus sized cards and have metal back plate too (but not researched either).
@orbitalwalsh, with your gaming knowledge would MMOs fly under the heat radar, on the whole, if curve was set up high enough and with sufficient fan case cooling and suitably generous heatsink on GPU? From my limited knowledge, a lot of MMOs can be walking around/trading and boring the t+ts of someone in chat etc - so not very taxing on GPU(?)
If, the answer is yes - then @mcast you may want to consider buying one component (memory) from somewhere else to offset £40 to get a larger sized card (physically). I know we've talked about the memory as a cost and speed benefit - but you do get 2 sticks, so 2 shots at checking if you had a problem (rare for both sticks to be faulty). This would reduce ambiguity if you had a troubleshooting issue with the build plus giving you the opportunity to 'maybe' getting a 'relatively' passive card when gaming (dependent on @orbitalwalsh's reply and your game list).
Probably not viable (but e.g. Grim Dawn isn't taxing) - but is something i would look at when building for silence - but as mentioned i don't tax my cards and set up high curves - but you could do the same if your games benefited.
@tamzzy maybe also be able to help - he plays Fruity Floozys 14(?) (can't remember)
*of course if you use headphones when gaming - moot point.
@mcast what MMOs do you play?
So, to add further confusion and thinking of how i view relative silence - i would always opt for a large heatsink card with decent fans - MSI 2070 Super would interest me as would that ASUS (but it is Asus :/) - both 2 point plus sized cards and have metal back plate too (but not researched either).
@orbitalwalsh, with your gaming knowledge would MMOs fly under the heat radar, on the whole, if curve was set up high enough and with sufficient fan case cooling and suitably generous heatsink on GPU? From my limited knowledge, a lot of MMOs can be walking around/trading and boring the t+ts of someone in chat etc - so not very taxing on GPU(?)
If, the answer is yes - then @mcast you may want to consider buying one component (memory) from somewhere else to offset £40 to get a larger sized card (physically). I know we've talked about the memory as a cost and speed benefit - but you do get 2 sticks, so 2 shots at checking if you had a problem (rare for both sticks to be faulty). This would reduce ambiguity if you had a troubleshooting issue with the build plus giving you the opportunity to 'maybe' getting a 'relatively' passive card when gaming (dependent on @orbitalwalsh's reply and your game list).
Probably not viable (but e.g. Grim Dawn isn't taxing) - but is something i would look at when building for silence - but as mentioned i don't tax my cards and set up high curves - but you could do the same if your games benefited.
@tamzzy maybe also be able to help - he plays Fruity Floozys 14(?) (can't remember)
*of course if you use headphones when gaming - moot point.
My basket at Overclockers UK:
- 1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 32GB 3200 MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Kit= £179.99
- 1 x Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut High Performance Thermal Paste - 1 Gramm= £4.99
- 1 x Noctua NM-AM4 Mounting Kit= £6.49
- 1 x AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Twelve Core 4.6GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £479.99
- 1 x EVGA Supernova P2 650W 80 Plus Platinum Modular Power Supply= £99.95
- 2 x Corsair Force MP510 series 960GB NVMe PCIe M.2 Solid State Drive (CSSD-F960GBMP510)= £139.99
- 1 x Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 Chipset ATX Motherboard= £209.99
- 1 x Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER WindForce OC 8192MB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £499.99
- 1 x Noctua NH-D15 Dual Radiator Quiet CPU Cooler with two NH-A15 Fans= £84.95
- 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P600S Silent Midi Tower Case - Black= £127.99
Total: £1,990.21 (includes shipping: £15.90)
I appreciate all the comments, pure fps/gaming isn't my only priority, quietness is just as important (I watch a lot of movies and youtube). I picked the 2070S as someone pointed out the large triple fans, thus it runs a little cooler and quieter. Reading around the noctua certainly seems the best and probably quietest? Saving £50-£100 to shop on a £2000 build that will last me 5 years isn't a huge deal.
The NT-H1 thermal paste that comes with the Noctua cooler is actually pretty good stuff, so you can save £5 there.
The Corsair RMx 650W is also a quiet unit and saves £10. You get UK RMA as well with Corsair and there is a rep or two who posts on here.
Team Group 3000MHz 32GB Kit saves another £51.
My basket at Overclockers UK:
- 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD432G3= £128.99
- 1 x Corsair RMx Series RMx650 650W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply (CP-9020178-UK)= £89.99
Total: £229.48 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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Been a while but some MMO can out out heat , like every game, soon as you go into a rammed place the GPU and CPU have to start rendering and processing lot more assets .
Most though have been designed to run on anything so visual elements aren't as hard core
Wondering is new Asus cards actually cool ram ? Turbo and dual cards from last two gens didn't have Active ram cooling and VRM was in a tiny aluminium heatsink , which was separate . Only the Strix had full proper cooling
Most though have been designed to run on anything so visual elements aren't as hard core
Wondering is new Asus cards actually cool ram ? Turbo and dual cards from last two gens didn't have Active ram cooling and VRM was in a tiny aluminium heatsink , which was separate . Only the Strix had full proper cooling