Time to get me McJob

getting voluntary work is actually a really good suggestion, the problem is it shouldnt be done while claiming bennefits for not working really, especially since the OP wants to support hisself, voluntary work is supposed to be done in your own time etc, thats why its attractive for the positions/employers mentioned, if you are claming and do voluntary work its nowhere near as good, because you're taking from society aswell as giving to it.
 
cleanbluesky said:
When the welfare state was born, it was about social revolution - it was about making a better country and ensuring that the working classes wouldn't land themselves in debt, destitution and prostitution should they fall ill, unemployed etc. etc.
It lead to an era of social mobility, and I for one am very GLAD that this spirit is alive, even if it has taken a beating at the hands of successive governments. There is no shame in claiming JSA or income support if your prime intent is to ensure that you find a profession that will make a genuine contribution to society.
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Social mobility? when taxpayer funded benefits comtribute to the middle class playing proportionately more of their income in taxes than any other demographc in England (46% total taxation for middle income families vs 42% for high-income families acording to the Financial Times) Where is the social mobility in that?

Or do you mean the social mobility as created by the benefit culture where fewer and fewer people are working, and more and more people are living off of JSA (many of which work cash-in-hand) as well. That's not social mobility, it's the enslaving of a people...dumbing down of the masses like the the proles in 1984. The then begin to think that it's ok to get along with the bare-minimum when to get something more out of life means to work for it. Come to north-west kent sometime and see what your welfare state has created. It's created a society of people that expect the government to take care of them. A society that doesn't have to worry about such things as obligations, responsibilities, etc; yet wants to have the nicest things in life given to them.

The OP has said he's in his teens correct? What's wrong with a teenager having a McJob? Absolutely nothing; when I was in high school we all worked at some resteraunt or something, it was only the lucky ones that were caddies at golf clubs or car detailers at a dealership.
 
Where i live, everyone at some point works at the Unichem warehouse.

When i turned 16 that was the place i started, mainly because the starting pay was so much better than anywhere else. At the time, i think Sainsburys were paying about 4.40/hr, unichem paid about 5.50. This was about 7 years ago though, so the basic pay has gone up to about 6.50/hr or so, so at that age it was quite a lot.
 
Mr_White said:
Great support there, snobs.

Good on you Alec for doing whatever you have to do to start earning, the country would be in a much better state if more people had the same attitude as you.

One of the reasons some people don't, is no doubt down to certain people passing judgement on people who have such jobs, as if they're somehow worth less or not as important because they don't have a brilliant job.

It's surprising how much you see it, and it's quite pathetic, it says more about the person judging than it does the person being judged, it says a lot about a messed up section of society where a person's worth is judged on their career.

I admire Alec's attitude of getting out there and getting job, no matter what it takes.
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thirded/fourther/whatevered. :)
 
Hope you don't mind me saying this alllec, but since you're living with your parents, you aren't going to keel over from not getting a job right this minute ;) so don't get too upset :)
 
so let me get this right....

In CBS's world people wouldn't work at mcdonalds, they would sit at home and read books/do volunteer work until a better job came up? :confused:

personally i think someone is to be applauded for overcoming social views and getting a 'crap' job rather than sit on his arse or feed other jobless dossers.

gets you in the right mindset that if you want something you work for it, not wait and get given it.

my dad always drilled that into me and as a result i've never been without a job since i was 13. i've paid my way all the way. :)
 
If you can work, work, McD's is a bad job, most people know this but the stigma of being on the dole is far worse than working for McD's.

Go to the JCP and browse the computers regularly to see if there are any jobs you would find more suitable. McD's is a dead end job, if you plan on looking though whilst your there and don't just get stuck in a rut then go for it.

If you are claiming JSA they expect you to be available to work full time, and will point out many jobs, if you start being really picky at this point about what you want to do then that is when you are falling into the stereotype of not wanting to work. Besides, even though pay at McD's is bad its still a lot more than you would get on JSA. As well as working looking better than claiming JSA on a CV.
 
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Problem with the Jobcentre system is the advisors are just going through the motions - they aren't doing anything more than the clients could do themselves, which is lazy and pointless, as well as a waste of money.
 
allllec said:
:D Classic.

Didn't get a phone call today either. Applied for another job. Still just sitting here waiting :(
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Good, I'm glad you haven't been tempted by the cleanbluesky's visions of Utopia where people work to further their social development and the greater good, rather than working to put food on the table and a roof over their heads.

JSA, as it's name suggests, is to support people who are actively seeking employment. Actively seeking employment means when you are offered employment that you are physically and mentally able to do, and the company is happy to employ you, then you accept the job. Even if it is only to tide you over until more suitable work presents itself.
It is not intended to be used to fund a moral crusade or a program of social development until you have managed to cherry pick a job that is in harmony with your inner chi.
 
You want to get yourself down to a temping agency - if you can type they will find you some sort of office job.
This is what I did after I graduated - I hadn't been bothered to apply for any grad positions so ended up with nothing to do for a while!
Within a week I was working as a data entry monkey for a large insurance company getting paid £5.92 per hour.

The key thing is to try and get into a big company, if you're good at what you do then you can find other positions within the company. Within 6 months of starting there as a temp I'd been made a permanent member of staff and had got myself a junior position in the IT department.
6 years later and I'm a senior technical consultant.
 
Haircut said:
You want to get yourself down to a temping agency - if you can type they will find you some sort of office job.
This is what I did after I graduated - I hadn't been bothered to apply for any grad positions so ended up with nothing to do for a while!
Within a week I was working as a data entry monkey for a large insurance company getting paid £5.92 per hour.

The key thing is to try and get into a big company, if you're good at what you do then you can find other positions within the company. Within 6 months of starting there as a temp I'd been made a permanent member of staff and had got myself a junior position in the IT department.
6 years later and I'm a senior technical consultant.
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See now that sounds interesting - One very novel thing that just crossed my mind.

I'd, obviously, have no control over where I'd be working and i don't drive. This is partially the reason why I'm finding it so hard to get a job at the moment. I cannot physically get anywhere TOO work.

Never the less I'll look into it :)
 
allllec said:
See now that sounds interesting - One very novel thing that just crossed my mind.

I'd, obviously, have no control over where I'd be working and i don't drive. This is partially the reason why I'm finding it so hard to get a job at the moment. I cannot physically get anywhere TOO work.

Never the less I'll look into it :)
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Hmm yes, having a car helps a great deal. Unfortunately insurance is a killer :(
 
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allllec said:
Tell me about it. Learning to drive atm - Once I've done that I've got to find £2000 a year to insure something! and the price of the car and petrol on top! :(
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I'm still getting ridiculous quotes like that...you're best off using trains for longer distance commuting.
 
Yeah.

Just signed up with a local agency I'd never noticed near the high street actually. Got a few good looking jobs on their site so I'll be popping in tomorrow!
 
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