Titan V announced £2700 15TF 12nm Volta

Zeed · 15 Dec 2017 at 09:28

Diagro said:
The card, Nvidia, The price. Absolutely everything about it is pathetic.

If id be on 50k+ would already ahve one

Fastest is fastest like it.

Only pathetic thing is AMD's Gpu range

Angilion · 15 Dec 2017 at 09:43

Diagro said:
The card, Nvidia, The price. Absolutely everything about it is pathetic.

Workstation cards can be a lot more than £2700 and this is really a workstation card. The hardware is, anyway. Some wealthy enthusiasts will buy them for fun, but nobody would buy them as anything that makes any sense for a home PC.

ubersonic · 15 Dec 2017 at 10:06

Silent_Scone said:
Why would he need heat spreaders?

Heat spreaders have become something of a status symbol over the years, to the point where all the decent spec memory has them, thus you can tell from their absence that it's slow and/or cheap RAM.

Silent_Scone · 15 Dec 2017 at 10:18

ubersonic said:
Heat spreaders have become something of a status symbol over the years, to the point where all the decent spec memory has them, thus you can tell from their absence that it's slow and/or cheap RAM.

That's great, except these are likely ECC modules, too. Don't think you're thinking this through lol. I think you've just got a very warped perspective on the rig shown and how it is purpose built. It would be more odd if it did.

ubersonic · 15 Dec 2017 at 10:26

Silent_Scone said:
That's great, except these are likely ECC modules, too.

ECC helps with data integrity not performance, the high end stuff still uses heatspreaders.

Silent_Scone said:
Don't think you're thinking this through lol. I think you've just got a very warped perspective on the rig shown and how it is purpose built. It would be more odd if it did.

We were just mocking the fact the guy had spent so much on his system then cheaped out on slow RAM.

Kaapstad · 15 Dec 2017 at 10:35

Silent_Scone said:
That's great, except these are likely ECC modules, too. Don't think you're thinking this through lol. I think you've just got a very warped perspective on the rig shown and how it is purpose built. It would be more odd if it did.

Lets not worry about heat spreaders.

Just put my second card in my old 6950X system which can only do 4.4ghz.

Despite the CPU the Titan V is disgustingly fast.

Check out the graphics score on this one.

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/14426627

Silent_Scone · 15 Dec 2017 at 10:42

Nice round number lol. Doubt the CPU will make too much difference, although mesh on the 7980 may even hinder it a little bit in comparison to X99

I'm in disbelief you bought two, dude. Why lol

Kaapstad · 15 Dec 2017 at 10:52

Silent_Scone said:
Nice round number lol. Doubt the CPU will make too much difference, although mesh on the 7980 may even hinder it a little bit in comparison to X99

I'm in disbelief you bought two, dude. Why lol

I tried to cancel the second one when I found out there was no mGPU support but NVidia sent it anyway.

In the end I decided to put one in my 7980XE and the other in my 6950X systems.

There is something I do not understand about my 7980XE system -

Every GPU I put in there performs about 5% less well than my 6950X system clock for clock on the card.

When it comes to 2 way SLI in Firestrike the difference in graphics score is huge in favour of the 6950X. I have also noticed that Radox has the same problem with his 1080 Ti cards and a 7980XE.

subbytna · 15 Dec 2017 at 10:52

ubersonic said:
In fairness they only recently dropped the Geforce name from the Titans, they know full well that 99.99% of consumers still think of them as Geforce cards.

Correct. It's a sneaky way of operating. Presumed assumption.

Kaapstad · 15 Dec 2017 at 11:00

subbytna said:
Correct. It's a sneaky way of operating. Presumed assumption.

Who cares how they label them, they are absolute beasts and give a hint at what the next gen cards will be able to do.

Silent_Scone · 15 Dec 2017 at 11:25

Kaapstad said:
I tried to cancel the second one when I found out there was no mGPU support but NVidia sent it anyway.

In the end I decided to put one in my 7980XE and the other in my 6950X systems.

There is something I do not understand about my 7980XE system -

Every GPU I put in there performs about 5% less well than my 6950X system clock for clock on the card.

When it comes to 2 way SLI in Firestrike the difference in graphics score is huge in favour of the 6950X. I have also noticed that Radox has the same problem with his 1080 Ti cards and a 7980XE.

Intel's changes with mesh favour bandwidth for more workstation focused workloads, but sacrifices latency. Games suffer because of it. Overclocking the cache and memory should bridge the gap. Also multiple cards are likely still better optimised on X99

Wrinkly · 15 Dec 2017 at 11:42

Zeed said:
If id be on 50k+ would already ahve one Fastest is fastest like it.

Only pathetic thing is AMD's Gpu range

Or maybe you would appreciate the value of money more.

If you have some real use for the card, fair enough, but spending 3K on a graphics card to play console ports is not a wise decission.

AMD are in a great price / performance spot when you include the monitor tech. Something they tried to educate people on at the launch of Vega.
(says me, with a 1080Ti FTW3

)

Zeed · 15 Dec 2017 at 12:40

Wrinkly said:
Or maybe you would appreciate the value of money more.

If you have some real use for the card, fair enough, but spending 3K on a graphics card to play console ports is not a wise decission.

AMD are in a great price / performance spot when you include the monitor tech. Something they tried to educate people on at the launch of Vega.
(says me, with a 1080Ti FTW3 )

Well what use does freesync got when I'm using my PC for full scale VR with dedicated room for it ??

As i see it Money got NO VALUE. TIME is real Value !!! You can have 10 0000 00000 whatever milions off whatever courency,. Yet Time is real limit of what Youi can do with them ect.
And thats reason i dont chase money at all. And spend any money i got on random gifts for random ravers i meet at events. Sometimes see em once in life.
If i can make someone have Better time its worth more than anything from my point of view

Silent_Scone · 15 Dec 2017 at 12:51

That is the most laid back hippy outlook on life I've ever read from someone on a hardware enthusiast forum lol

five8five · 15 Dec 2017 at 13:00

Kaapstad said:
The Kingpin is dead, long live the King !!!!

C'mon Kaap, the podium beckons

Brazo · 15 Dec 2017 at 13:01

Wrinkly said:
Or maybe you would appreciate the value of money more.

If you have some real use for the card, fair enough, but spending 3K on a graphics card to play console ports is not a wise decission.

AMD are in a great price / performance spot when you include the monitor tech. Something they tried to educate people on at the launch of Vega.
(says me, with a 1080Ti FTW3 )

I think you’ll find AMD tried a number of clever marketing tricks when they realised that Vega wasn’t all that.

It’s akin to Ferrari focusing on how well the car can be cleaned rather than it’s performance.

Wrinkly · 15 Dec 2017 at 13:33

Brazo said:
I think you’ll find AMD tried a number of clever marketing tricks when they realised that Vega wasn’t all that.

It’s akin to Ferrari focusing on how well the car can be cleaned rather than it’s performance.

And a Ferrari makes as much sense on UK roads as a Titan V playing console ports

Wrinkly · 15 Dec 2017 at 13:40

Zeed said:
Well what use does freesync got when I'm using my PC for full scale VR with dedicated room for it ??

Wrinkly said:
AMD are in a great price / performance spot when you include the monitor tech. Something they tried to educate people on at the launch of Vega.

What percentage of PC gamers do you think use VR? (though I am part of that percentage

)

Zeed said:
As i see it Money got NO VALUE. TIME is real Value !!! You can have 10 0000 00000 whatever milions off whatever courency,. Yet Time is real limit of what Youi can do with them ect.
And thats reason i dont chase money at all. And spend any money i got on random gifts for random ravers i meet at events. Sometimes see em once in life.
If i can make someone have Better time its worth more than anything from my point of view

Kaapstad · 15 Dec 2017 at 13:45

Silent_Scone said:
Intel's changes with mesh favour bandwidth for more workstation focused workloads, but sacrifices latency. Games suffer because of it. Overclocking the cache and memory should bridge the gap. Also multiple cards are likely still better optimised on X99

Has anyone had much success overclocking the cache?

As to overclocking the memory mine CPU can only handle around 3733mhz and the memory I have installed is good for over 3866mhz so not even running full speed.

Silent_Scone · 15 Dec 2017 at 13:55

Kaapstad said:
Has anyone had much success overclocking the cache?

As to overclocking the memory mine CPU can only handle around 3733mhz and the memory I have installed is good for over 3866mhz so not even running full speed.

4 DIMM board helps, Apex is great for memory frequency. Using 4x8GB 3200Mhz bdie here for 4000Mhz CAS 16

Cache stability depends on the sample obviously, but tops out at 3.4Ghz. Don't want to push voltages too far there.

five8five said:
C'mon Kaap, the podium beckons

JPM is a good friend of mine and is pretty nifty with 3d benching. He also has a chiller, so not sure if he's managed to put that to use yet