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Hopefully there is a happy outcome - but it just seems strange that they would get a license for these tours without having a reliable recovery method - or even a way to connect to cameras etc
Titanic submersible confirmed destroyed with loss of all five souls onboard.
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You always minimise the size and number of any penetrations in a pressure vessel. They're the main point of failure.
Soldato
Because its all for show. Doesn't matter how far down another vessel can get. If they are on the seabed there is no getting them out.
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And now needing to be rescued/recovered by taxpayers money. Nothing new there I suppose (bailouts in mind here
). I hope they'll be contributing their share in what will now run into the man millions for their rescue/recovery from their voyage of voyeurism 
Anyway, hope they're recovered safely.
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Expert says pipe-laying ship on scene
BBC News has been speaking to marine scientist and expedition leader David Mearns, who has been keeping a close eye on developments off Newfoundland.
He tells us that a commercial pipe-laying ship has arrived in the area where the submersible was last reported, and says this is welcome news.
“Just in the last hour or so... another commercial vessel, a very capable pipe laying vessel, modern ship, with ROV (remotely operated underwater vehicle) capabilities, is actually over the site now and we’re just hoping that it has the capabilities to reach those kind of depths – 3,800 metres – to search for the submersible and have the ability to recover it.
BBC News has been speaking to marine scientist and expedition leader David Mearns, who has been keeping a close eye on developments off Newfoundland.
He tells us that a commercial pipe-laying ship has arrived in the area where the submersible was last reported, and says this is welcome news.
“Just in the last hour or so... another commercial vessel, a very capable pipe laying vessel, modern ship, with ROV (remotely operated underwater vehicle) capabilities, is actually over the site now and we’re just hoping that it has the capabilities to reach those kind of depths – 3,800 metres – to search for the submersible and have the ability to recover it.
I was wondering what size it would have been crushed down to if it has imploded - though not sure it would react like I'm imagining, but the pressures down there are staggering
A car crusher exerts about 2000 psi, at the depth of the Titanic it's 6000 psi
Some grisly reading here on the effects of a submarine getting crushed
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A car crusher exerts about 2000 psi, at the depth of the Titanic it's 6000 psi
Some grisly reading here on the effects of a submarine getting crushed
When a submarine exceeds its crush depth and the crew is killed, are they squished flat? Do they die instantaneously due to the pressure?...
Answer (1 of 13): When a submarine “crushes”, it can happen in a variety of ways. In the case of the USS Scorpion, there were two hydrogen explosions in the battery well at 18:20 GMT (22 May, 1968) that created an internal overpressure of 150 - 200 psi. These explosions were not strong enough to...
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i see your point and would hope if they get out alive they get something of a bill, however is that much different from everest climbers who get into trouble or people trekking to the Antarctic?And now needing to be rescued/recovered by taxpayers money. Nothing new there I suppose (bailouts in mind here
Anyway, hope they're recovered safely.
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Similar but the cost of this recue would be absolutely huge vs recuing someone trekking in Antartica. Most of us could afford to go trekking too, but not do this. So why shouldn't they? Can definately afford to.
But maybe everyone should pay a percentage of their wealth towards a recue when known risks involved that those involved accepted.
As others have said I see the appeal of going up in a rocket, experiencing space travel. After all, that is something humans need to evolve possibly for our own survival. But visiting a steel coffin 12500ft under the surface of an oceanwhere 1500 people died? maybe it's a bias but i struggle to get that, the risks just to experience that, and paying £250k or $ for that experience.
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unless the mini sub has landed on it i doubt they will need to touch the wreck. but if they do at the end of the day its only rusted metal..... real lives take precedent, the dead wont care.
Bacteria is already eating the ship whole, there is nothing to save.
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i dont think some sort of insurance package to cover a possible rescue is unreasonable. not sure what that kind of thing would cost however or who would take it on. I do have adventure activities on my barclays bank travel insurance.... i doubt this would cover it however
btw have you seen the damage that musks rocket did last month? i suspect that may cost a few quid to put right as well.
Soldato
There is no license. No marine body has approved of this vessel - it's completely experimental.
They can't get them out on the seabed but they can evacuate them on the surface if they raise the submersible to the surface.
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I have no idea about subs that can go that deep but are any of them buoyant enough to be able to float twice their weight? Surely about the only hope is something like the pipe laying ROV having a mechanical arm to dislodge the weights on the lost sub so it floats itself.
Edit: This is of course assuming they even find it.
Edit: This is of course assuming they even find it.
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Its not really the point though people don't go digging in graveyards whether theres anything much left isn't really the point its a respect thing, most if not all battleships are regarded as war graves and is illegal to disturb i guess civilian ships don't come under the same rules, maybe they should
If they manage to get it to the surface and rescue the occupents, Hollywood will be all over it and have a movie out within the year. Probably starring Liam Neeson or Ewan Mcgregor.
We do dig at Pompeii constantly though (as well as thousands of archaeological sites globally) and thats a graveyard to more people than Titanic.