Titanic submersible confirmed destroyed with loss of all five souls onboard.

A submarine search and rescue expert in Australia, Frank Owen, tells the BBC his “confidence went up by an order of magnitude” when he heard reports of banging being detected by floating sound detectors.

“There's a couple of reasons for that,” he explains. “Firstly, on board this craft is a retired French navy diver. He would know the protocol for trying to alert searching forces… on the hour and the half hour you bang like hell for three minutes.”
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Seems likely what's happening.
 
potatolord said:
I wonder if anyone will be looking at increased regulation of this sort of activity.

Being cold-hearted, this could be a very significant cost for the various countries involved.
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And this is exactly why I'm so vocal in this thread. This will very likely cost the lives of 5 people, and millions of pounds of time and resources from numerous nations wasted as a result. People away from their families, the stress put on all those involved in the operation, it's an absolutely monumental waste of time, money, resources and human lives, for something that someone did despite being warned many times that it would result in tragedy. This whole ordeal has had so many opportunities and red flags telling this guy that he's endangering people and yet he ignored everyone and nobody stopped him, and look what's happened.

As tragic as it is, most rules in health and safety are written in blood and this will be no exception. He was lucky that he was in international waters which blurs the lines of legality but something will need to be put in place to stop idiots like this doing dumb **** and killing people.
 
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StriderX said:
You'd think a company offering deep dives like this would have an onboard helicopter able to drop their own sonar buoy's... They just didn't give a **** did they?
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Lots of corners cut by a cheap operation. They should have a back up submersible really too since they were going to depths that are beyond the norm of what the US has access to, since their unmanned ones imploded somewhere beyond 3k ft.
 
It was controlled with a Logitech controller...Via Bluetooth connection, even it is highly prone to failure..are poeple really asking what went wrong?
 
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www.independent.co.uk

Former employee raised ‘safety and quality control issues’ with Titan vessel

Ex-exployee was ‘met with hostility’ before later being fired after making suggestions to OceanGate
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StriderX said:
You'd think a company offering deep dives like this would have an onboard helicopter able to drop their own sonar buoy's... They just didn't give a **** did they?
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So to summarize my understandings so far:

  1. They didn't have their own launch vessel and had to rent one.
  2. They had no means of recovery in the event of an emergency.
  3. Their submersible had no emergency egress system.
  4. The ballast in the submersible was constructed using construction pipes.
  5. The light in the unit was from a camping shop.
  6. The controller was a gaminng unit.
  7. Their control system was Bluetooth, which has never been tested in those circumstances.
  8. The owner was told by a former employee that this thing is dangerous, he fired that person.
  9. He was told by other sources that this thing is dangerous (can't remember who atm, will have a better dig when I've got more time)
  10. The sub was never safety approved by any agency worldwide.
  11. The sub was never put forward for classing because "classing doesn't guarantee safety".
From these facts I'd very much be classing everything this man says as "absolute nonsense" until proven otherwise.
 
thenewoc said:
Short gaps between bangs for dots and longer intervals between bangs for dashes.
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Exactly this. It's the pattern that's important.

bang bang bang
*longer pause* bang *longer pause* bang *longer pouse* bang
bang bang bang

Instantly recognisable.

/edit, they're not trying to send a message, it's that three quick, three slow, three quick pattern that stands out.
 
cu3ed said:
It was controlled with a Logitech controller...Via Bluetooth connection, even it is highly prone to failure..are poeple really asking what went wrong?
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Yes, because despite this controller thing we don't know what went wrong. There is a myriad of things that could have happened and as every day goes by the list of questionable stuff gets longer so controller is a good headline but may or may not be related to why the sub is missing.
 
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thenewoc said:
Your first mistake was trusting the main stream media such as the BBC.
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lol

The BBC won't have speculated about the noise, they will have reported what they had confirmed at the time, they tend to try and be a bit more reliable than Dave down the pub, or bob20345756929 on twitter. There used to be a thing where the BBC were known for being slower to report on stories than Sky news for example, but at the same time Sky news had the unofficial tagline in the industry of "never wrong for long" because of how often they'd rush a story out then have to correct major details.
Much of the vaunted (by some) "non mainstream media" are somewhat less reliable than even GB news.
 
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