Titanic submersible confirmed destroyed with loss of all five souls onboard.

This terrible saga brings back strong memories for MH370. For me, that brought stark realisation of just how far we are behind technologically than I'd originally assumed. We couldn't find a 60x60 metre plane that was pinging location right into the ocean using the technology of the worlds best.

With that in mind, I have no idea how we'd ever find Titan. The fact this thing has no fully redundant tracking beacon is the worst of the many failures.
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
The guy in charge yesterday said they were using the best and most appropriate assets as they were and became available.

You cant have every ship and ROV in the world all milling about in the same space.

I was reading about the previous sub that got stuck there. I had kind of assumed that at that depth the currents would be quite low, but apparantly not and they got stcuk because of a current that pushed them into one of the props.
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Yup

The sort of assets they're using are by definition rare and spread out all over the place, as they're normally being used for very specialist and differing jobs, an ROV that is good at looking for stuff is normally going to be used for something like searching for ship wrecks, inspecting cables or doing marine research, whilst one that is good at heavy lifting might normally be used to try and salvage something from a shipwreck that's been found or around something like an oil rig.

It's a bit of a miracle they're managing to get the various bits there in the time frame they are given IIRC the maximum speed of many of the ships is around 400-500 miles a day once they can get start moving (which may take hours/a day if they were already deployed and active), and how far apart they likely were doing their normal, planned jobs. It's also worth remembering that some of the ROV's etc they're pulling in may well have been being used on very expensive projects so there could also have been delays as the owners/people they were contracted to agreed to their use given it might end up costing companies many millions of pounds or mean an end to a research project that has been years in the planning (I suspect any such delay would be minimum given the general attitude to sea rescues of "everyone should assist if they can").
 
Feek said:
Realistically, this is all over now. Even if they found them any time this morning, they were never going to get them to the surface in time.
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Last time this happened they survived much longer than their air supply suggested so hope is not lost.
 
mrk said:
The French sent their sub that can dive to 6000m yesterday and it should be there any hour now so at least one sub will be diving to the Titanic today to investigate.
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Ohh is it a different or other sub they are showing live on the news?
 
The French one is called Victor, not seen news today so if it is that one then they must have hauled arse to get there!
 
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Werewolf said:
Yup

The sort of assets they're using are by definition rare and spread out all over the place, as they're normally being used for very specialist and differing jobs, an ROV that is good at looking for stuff is normally going to be used for something like searching for ship wrecks, inspecting cables or doing marine research, whilst one that is good at heavy lifting might normally be used to try and salvage something from a shipwreck that's been found or around something like an oil rig.

It's a bit of a miracle they're managing to get the various bits there in the time frame they are given IIRC the maximum speed of many of the ships is around 400-500 miles a day once they can get start moving (which may take hours/a day if they were already deployed and active), and how far apart they likely were doing their normal, planned jobs. It's also worth remembering that some of the ROV's etc they're pulling in may well have been being used on very expensive projects so there could also have been delays as the owners/people they were contracted to agreed to their use given it might end up costing companies many millions of pounds or mean an end to a research project that has been years in the planning (I suspect any such delay would be minimum given the general attitude to sea rescues of "everyone should assist if they can").
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It always makes me wonder who pays for all this seeing as it is in international waters?
 
Doobedoo said:
Because the US is the Worlds super power nothings goes down without their say so or involvement.
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International water Is international, that's what America keeps telling China because they are building military bases in international water
 
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mrk said:
The French one is called Victor, not seen news today so if it is that one then they must have hauled arse to get there!
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Yea its there now

The Victor 6000, a submersible operated by the French research institute Ifremer, has arrived in the search area.

Working in four-hour shifts, a team of two pilots will navigate and control its movement from a control room on board the surface ship, the Atalante.

There will also be a third person in the control room helping with the mission. They could be from the Canadian coastguard or from the company which operates the missing submarine the Titan.

The lights and cameras that Victor 6000 has on board will enable the team on the surface ship to see in real time what is on the floor of the ocean to a distance roughly equivalent to a small tennis court.

The French submersible also has two mechanical arms capable of extremely delicate manoeuvres such as cutting or removing debris.

The atmosphere back at their base in the South of France is calm. They know the team operating the Victor 6000 out in the Atlantic is extremely
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Grim5 said:
International water Is international, that's what America keeps telling China because they are building military bases in international water
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It is but the conversation would’ve been had and if the US said no thank you, who is going to challenge that.
 
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