Titanic submersible confirmed destroyed with loss of all five souls onboard.

[dlockers]

NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center in Alabama helped build lost Titanic submersible

Titan, the submersible craft that went missing with its crew Saturday near the site of the sunken Titanic, was developed with the help of engineers at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala.

www.al.com

Yeah, but no -

"
We regret to hear the Titan submersible is missing, and we remain hopeful the crew will be found unharmed. NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center had a Space Act Agreement with OceanGate and consulted on materials and manufacturing processes for the submersible. NASA did not conduct testing and manufacturing via its workforce or facilities, which were done elsewhere by OceanGate.

For the safety of our team members during the COVID-19 pandemic, as well as limited resources and availability, NASA Marshall engineers only participated remotely in technical interchange meetings, providing consultation for materials and manufacturing processes based on industry standards. We did not provide any approvals for the project as OceanGate was the technical authority."

They paid for a few conference calls with clever people to "go do it themselves".

 

[Minusorange]

They signed which said it's experimental and you could die ?

That's what will be for the courts to decide if signing the waiver is enough or if the company is guilty of negligence regardless of the waiver

International waters doesn't matter either, you are still held by the laws of your country regardless where you go

 

[bayo000]

just watching Sky news now and the expert they have on says the debris is the landing cage and the rear cover , rest not found and probably never will be

After the reports of banging over las day or so I'm not sure I'll believe anything until it's officially confirmed and potentially pictures provided.

 

[Mint8]

All very sad for those involved I am sure but at the end of the day its very bored rich people playing with their toys and coming a cropper once again - if it wasnt this it would be a helicopter/aircraft/high altitude balloon or a spaceship or something.

 

[chrismscotland]

After the reports of banging over las day or so I'm not sure I'll believe anything until it's officially confirmed and potentially pictures provided.

They already advised that the banging was "background ocean noise" earlier and not banging

 

[danlightbulb]

What time is the press conference on, and the documentary?

 

[uscool]

That's what will be for the courts to decide if signing the waiver is enough or if the company is guilty of negligence regardless of the waiver

International waters doesn't matter either, you are still held by the laws of your country regardless where you go

And things put in place so can't do something similar going forward

 

[Jay-G25]

After the reports of banging over las day or so I'm not sure I'll believe anything until it's officially confirmed and potentially pictures provided.

The banging wasn't from the sub , possibly the Titanic itself or something else ... the sub imploded the day it went down to the Titanic , info coming direct from the ships at the location now he is saying .

 

[Pigeon_Killer]

I thought the banging could've been the sub contorting after it had been compressed.

 

[bayo000]

They already advised that the banging was "background ocean noise" earlier and not banging

Didn't stop news reporting on. I'm not saying the guys on Sky are wrong, they probably have inside links, but may as well just wait for official statements rather than hear say.

 

[robfosters]

hardly built in a shed

NASA helped build the thing

Plenty of other stuff that NASA built has blown up too

 

[NickK]

They already advised that the banging was "background ocean noise" earlier and not banging

RU sub going past probably..

The ocean is a very noisy place.

 

[mrk]

NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center in Alabama helped build lost Titanic submersible

Titan, the submersible craft that went missing with its crew Saturday near the site of the sunken Titanic, was developed with the help of engineers at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala.

www.al.com

This is largely irrelevant. It is not known how much involvement NASA had other than their own vested interest in vehicles that can withstand the pressures in space on long missions, so they'd be more interested in the pure research side of things. We already know Stockton Rush claimed on live news interviews in previous years that NASA, Washington University and Boeing helped with the project, which later turned out to be mostly false as both the University and Boeing made public statements denying any involvement, so how much of the NASA one is accurate too?

Besides all that, anything NASA builds will be tested, certified and go through all the regulations. Titan sub was never put through such measures - Which, once again, is why so many people involved with the company raised concerns for safety and why Oceangate never operated the sub in local waters because it would be illegal.


Edit*
Lol looks like the NASA claim was sensationalised by them too: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/titanic-submersible-missing.18973570/page-21#post-36472635

 

[Rroff]

The banging could have been just about anything - some of the systems used are incredibly sensitive but also require a lot of filtering to make sense of and/or can pickup weird things as if a genuine signal like a slight imbalance in a motor, etc.

 

[Psycho Ned]

Yeah, but no -

"
We regret to hear the Titan submersible is missing, and we remain hopeful the crew will be found unharmed. NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center had a Space Act Agreement with OceanGate and consulted on materials and manufacturing processes for the submersible. NASA did not conduct testing and manufacturing via its workforce or facilities, which were done elsewhere by OceanGate.

For the safety of our team members during the COVID-19 pandemic, as well as limited resources and availability, NASA Marshall engineers only participated remotely in technical interchange meetings, providing consultation for materials and manufacturing processes based on industry standards. We did not provide any approvals for the project as OceanGate was the technical authority."

They paid for a few conference calls with clever people to "go do it themselves".

Which shows how ‘worked with NASA’ was being very loose with the truth (unsurprisingly).

People read that and think (exactly as the manufacturer wanted) that this was some close collaboration where they used NASA expertise to design this craft in reality they had a teams call asking whether to paint it black or gray.

 

[diamount]

I thought the banging could've been the sub contorting after it had been compressed.

If it imploded it would've been during the descent, they weren't listening for it then.

 

[Jay-G25]

This is largely irrelevant. It is not known how much involvement NASA had other than their own vested interest in vehicles that can withstand the pressures in space on long missions, so they'd be more interested in the pure research side of things. We already know Stockton Rush claimed on live news interviews in previous years that NASA, Washington University and Boeing helped with the project, which later turned out to be mostly false as both the University and Boeing made public statements denying any involvement, so how much of the NASA one is accurate too?

Besides all that, anything NASA builds will be tested, certified and go through all the regulations. Tian sub was never put through such measures - Which, once again, is why so many people involved with the company raised concerns for safety and why Oceangate never operated the sub in local waters because it would be illegal.

No pressure in space , its basically a vacuum

 

[Demon]

The rov’s sent down also look like they are built by fred in a shed too.

The main thing here is the use of known but experimental materials from aerospace being used. Clearly with some dives completed it’s technically feasible, but lacked rigour in validating for repeated use. For us to do this in other industries, we’d have done some destructive testing, plenty of HALT/HASS etc and got to know the weak points and durability, but would cost so much more the concept of getting to a cost for extreme tourism wouldn’t be remotely tenable..

however if you can ’waive’ your life away like that, as long as they didn’t lie or falsify information, then it’s hard not to think that it’s all down to that.. extreme activities like this are either tolerated or not.

Innovating is hard, and it does not sit well with me allowing paid passengers on this, I have some empathy in trying to innovate, but not like this.

 

[GreatAuk]

Given they're doing a press conference for the debris field does seem pretty likely that that's it...

Can't help feeling that the CEO got what he deserved really, building that deathtrap with no thought to safety and doing his best to avoid any proper scrutiny or challenge. Glad he was on the sub rather than another victim.

Just a shame the other people had to go with him, even if perhaps in the clear light of day they, as responsible (and successful!) adults should maybe have known better. I imagine the CEO was probably quite a good liar & convincing in person, plus to the right person the offer of going down to the Titanic would be very tempting.

Feel worst for the 19 year old. Probably just trusted his dad...

 

[Rroff]

Yeah, but no -

"
We regret to hear the Titan submersible is missing, and we remain hopeful the crew will be found unharmed. NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center had a Space Act Agreement with OceanGate and consulted on materials and manufacturing processes for the submersible. NASA did not conduct testing and manufacturing via its workforce or facilities, which were done elsewhere by OceanGate.

For the safety of our team members during the COVID-19 pandemic, as well as limited resources and availability, NASA Marshall engineers only participated remotely in technical interchange meetings, providing consultation for materials and manufacturing processes based on industry standards. We did not provide any approvals for the project as OceanGate was the technical authority."

They paid for a few conference calls with clever people to "go do it themselves".

I bet they'd put out a different statement if this was some successful mission :s