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** TITANX **

elmuzzy66. said:
It goes out the window because of what titanx is doing with the same power that a 290 is using.
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290x was king of the hill when it launched though (when compared to a Geforce 780), surely the same argument should have applied at the time? (18 months ago)

I remember all the people banging on about heat and power then though?
 
Geeman1979 said:
Not really! We'll cross that bridge when real world users test and give us some results.
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Buying a 1000 GBP and thinking about the power bill is utterly stupid, but that's my opinion :p

VincentHanna said:
290x was king of the hill when it launched though, surely the same argument should have applied at the time? (18 months ago)

I remember all the people banging on about heat and power then though?
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I have had 4xR9-290s, they just like that 94c number if you don't undervolt, use vsync etc (non reference MSI btw)
 
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Besty said:
Most stock 980 cards will boost up to around 1550Mhz.
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africanos23 said:
It was a simple answer for the OPs question about the differences ~ roughly.

4GB doesnt cut it for me though (4K)

I prefer stock or cheaper OCed versions then push. I have been lucky over the years though :cool:
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I think that was the point I was trying to make badly



My 980 will clock to 1550 MHz and do some great benchmarks, however it is flawless at 1500 but as I am 1080 and the games I play, I run it at my base clock of 1266.

So other than brand cooler efficiency, if most OC their card, what is the performance gain over different brands?

Seeing that the TX seems to be able to achieve similar OC gains as the 980, ignoring coolers, especially apart from two** one, on the OCUK site, they are reference coolers... what is the performance gain from paying full whack to paying for the OCUK Titan X

**Just checked and the inno3d Titan X's are no longer on the site... Mmmmm
 
Gregster said:
I was heavily involved in the original Titan thread and I honestly can't recall a single person there saying they bought the Titan for its DP performance. I will even check back through it when I get home, as I have nowt that I want to play at the no.
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There were loads of people, all saying they were buying them for their shops as cheap Teslas, often in bulk.

People are raging at the new pricepoint that NV snuck in on the back of DP performance.
 
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Besty said:
Most stock 980 cards will boost up to around 1550Mhz. Above that, it is silicon lottery or, you buy an980 Kingpin to get the extra up to around 1620mhz so, I don't count a heavily priced 980 as a comparo to the Titan X, you should buy the cheapest 980 and clock it.

I run my 980's at 1500Mhz and three of them will hand two Titan X a new one in most bench circumstances but the games and drivers don't usually turn that advantage into something that you can feel in game. There are some exceptions but you are probably better off with two titan x cards rather than three 980 cards.

That said, it depends on when you bought the cards, £1300inc would have got you into three superclocked 980s on launch. That won't get you two Titan X cards now. I paid £1700inc for 4 980s - which is going to be more useful, two Titan X or four 980s? There answer is probably the former unless, game companies start providing proper, low frame-time, support for 3 and 4 cards.
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I'd rather have 2 TX since your 4GB is staring to become very limiting, but that depends on whether your gaming at hi Res's or not.
How will 4 be more useful?
 
In theory, my 4 980 cards were purchased to push the new (and very exciting) Acer IPS at 144fps at 1440p in G-Sync (I say theory because the screen is not out yet) so my use case for switching to TX's would be more about the skill of games programmers than anything else, less cards means less scaling problems.

I would probably have some scenarios where I hit the Vram limit but honestly, I don't really get upset at having to use less MSAA.

I will probably need to try them both types of GPU config and see whats what to give a straight answer, at the moment it looks like that for the TX, you really need to be into 4k Gaming and I don't think the displays are there yet to make it fully enjoyable. I have tried to use it but I get motion sickness at 60fps for action games.

I do dream about playing Ori: The Blind Forest on an Eizo 4k Colouredge but, summer is coming and I have other priorities than dropping £4k on a display and will soldier on with my humble 4k TN panel in the interim. I might buckle but its a lot of cash.
 
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iB CoMpL3XiTy said:
@DM,

You're wasting your time, people that want to buy / have bought a TitanX will justify the cost somehow, if it's not DP performance it'll be something else.

The card is 33% faster than a GTX980 (according to anand) but costs twice as much, it's overpriced for sure, but being the fastest single GPU out it'll get away with it.
Fair play to nVidia if they can price it at ~£900 and people still buy it, that's good business.
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Agreed, you are wasting your time DM. lol. :p

Very good business indeed. It's kind of like price skimming.

iB CoMpL3XiTy said:
It doesn't matter what peoples expectations are, we already know what it can do via reviews that are already out.
We know its performance relative to other cards, how the cost is justified is down to the individual.
If you feel that 33% more performance over a GTX980 for twice the price is justifiable then great. :)
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This guy gets it. Could not have put it any better myself. I find it to be **** poor value, same as the 980. Others think it is great value. Each to their own. Just because I think it is **** poor value does not mean I think it is a bad card, priced right I would snap one up. Clearly it is by far the best single gpu card out there. No arguing with that.
 
Gregster said:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18492492&highlight=official+Titan

I got to page 31 and was smiling away and the odd chuckle but didn't see a single person who said they bought it for the double precision.

For lols, it is worth a read :D
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For the lols could you point out where I or others claimed that people on here said they bought it for DP performance?

Oh you can't, because I never claimed that at all. Read what I said and argue against that, rather than your usual style of making up something then disproving a question you made up yourself which are invariably easier to answer.

I said, quite simply, that Nvidia guys on here used it's semi professional DP capability to excuse it's high price and continually claim it wasn't aimed at gamers, again justifying the price. Regardless of what you think, that isn't the same thing.

It's worse when you think about it, effectively they are saying this card isn't aimed at gamers, is priced to be a home compute card, so I know it's not aimed at me but I'm going to overpay for a feature I acknowledge is both the reason the card is so expensive and that I don't want to use. Nvidia happily sold DP performance reduced 780ti's that were faster and used an identical core for significantly less money and still made a large profit.

Nvidia users paying extra for a specific feature they know they won't use. Genius, almost as smart as paying for 12GB of memory and the extra profit they'll sneak in with that memory(ie £50 for the memory, increase the price £150) when no one will use it. Even at 4k and 8xmsaa you wouldn't need it and even 4 of them wouldn't provide a playable experience at such settings anyway.

Nvidia, selling you a feature you absolutely won't use, but making more profit by doing it. Nvidia users, acknowledging they are paying more for a feature and also somehow being proud to point out they never needed said feature(in the case of certain Nvidia users now claiming DP performance wasn't important, yet paying more because of it).
 
^^LMAO NV marketing and brand power really is like Apple, thank god it does not work on me, i would be £3800-£4000 out of pocket :)
 
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drunkenmaster said:
Nvidia, selling you a feature you absolutely won't use, but making more profit by doing it. Nvidia users, acknowledging they are paying more for a feature and also somehow being proud to point out they never needed said feature(in the case of certain Nvidia users now claiming DP performance wasn't important, yet paying more because of it).
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Well it's a very fast card, not perfect but nothing is in the computing world and no one can argue it's not overpriced for a flagship gaming GPU. But this is how powerful NVIDIA have become and I think we just need to accept it. They can price which way they want and they know it'll sell no matter what.

I think its just the nature of the beast that those who have laid thousands in to said companies products will try and justify it one way or another, even if they end up contradicting themselves when the company reaches around for another go.
 
RanxZy said:
But this is how powerful NVIDIA have become and I think we just need to accept it. They can price which way they want and they know it'll sell no matter what.
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There's no need to accept anything. Simply don't buy overpriced products. Even with only two competitors in the market the customer has a choice.
 
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