Today's mass shooting in the US

They normally do get the police called on them, loads of them on YouTube.

Obvs unless they’re committing domestic terrorist attacks in favour of a cause Hurfdurf supports then calling the police = bootlicker.
 
And this is a problem how :confused:
Would you be more impressed if he still didn't care?

Well he’s probably highlighting that the guy is a bit dumb and could only see the gun issue when it affected him.

But yeah some of the frothing over it is bit silly, he’s damned if he’s in favour and damned if he changes his position.
 
They normally do get the police called on them, loads of them on YouTube.

problem is the attitude of some of them is open carrying intentionally just to make a political statement about their rights rather than any particular need to have that gun on them at the time.

one of those just because you can doesn't mean you should moments.
 
And this is a problem how :confused:
Would you be more impressed if he still didn't care?

This is a weird one.

I think part of the issue with debate online these days is that if people ever change their mind it's immediately seen as a defeat for them and a win for the other party.

People changing their minds for good reason, as in new facts or a change in a situation, should be celebrated.

You could also argue he's learned to be more empathetic as a result of this and it will change his views on other matters, in which case then his change of mind should also be praised as it indicates a change in his general processing of issues.
 
problem is the attitude of some of them is open carrying intentionally just to make a political statement about their rights rather than any particular need to have that gun on them at the time.

one of those just because you can doesn't mean you should moments.

Yup indeed, I think they call then first amendment audits. Like they deliberately want the police to confront them in order to prove a point and/or keep open carry normalised. Like in case someone is doing it for a genuine reason, maybe off looking for some tyranny to fight.

It’s like the weirdos who go into court buildings and record the low paid security guard who then kicks off until a supervisor arrives and says the neckbeards are allowed to record if they want to exercise “muh rights”.
 
Ahh it's so nice to know 8chan is now dead (forced into the darkest of webs atleast, alongside paedos), along with bitmigrate, the good guys have won.
 
No one has mentioned going on a mass killing spree with a knife, you are more likely to die if you get stabbed by someone than if someone is shooting at you from 25 yards with most hand guns, that's all. Nothing to do with mass shootings. This is based on injuries suffered by Police in America and in direct response to someone suggesting they'd rather take on a knife attacker when you are 3 times as likely to die when stabbed than shot.

Yes for a mass killing you'd choose a semi automatic high powered rifle like an AR-15

I’m not sure how much you really know about guns.

What even is a high powered rifle?

Why would you choose a semi auto gun for a killing spree?
 
I’m not sure how much you really know about guns.

What even is a high powered rifle?

Why would you choose a semi auto gun for a killing spree?

Intermediate rifle caliber and usually the choice of those who've watched too many movies/games and fancy themselves as a bit of an "operative". They actually are quite a way down the list in terms of effective firearms for those kind of shootings - not that I'm going to elaborate on what is better...
 
Intermediate rifle caliber and usually the choice of those who've watched too many movies/games and fancy themselves as a bit of an "operative". They actually are quite a way down the list in terms of effective firearms for those kind of shootings - not that I'm going to elaborate on what is better...

Thanks, I don’t need you to.

What’s a .308 sniper then...mega powered?
 
I’m not sure how much you really know about guns.

What even is a high powered rifle?

Why would you choose a semi auto gun for a killing spree?

You would struggle to get an automatic weapon to commit a mass shooting in most countries, and high powered by civilian standards would be a .223. This isn't something I've given much thought to as you can maybe imagine though

Same but Roar87 is plainly not the expert on guns he wants to appear as.

I'm not trying to appear as an expert lol, I just did some basic research on the damage a knife can inflict vs a hand gun, it took all of 5 minutes. I enjoy looking things up.
 
You would struggle to get an automatic weapon to commit a mass shooting in most countries, and high powered by civilian standards would be a .223. This isn't something I've given much thought to as you can maybe imagine though

Plenty of .357 and .44 magnum shooters in the US.

No way a .223 round is high powered for a rifle round.
 
Plenty of .357 and .44 magnum shooters in the US.

No way a .223 round is high powered for a rifle round.

Can you chamber an AR-15 in either of those calibres? Do you need that much stopping power for soft targets at the expense of recoil, noise, cost of rounds, smaller magazines, weight, etc?
 
Can you chamber an AR-15 in either of those calibres? Do you need that much stopping power for soft targets at the expense of recoil, noise, cost of rounds, smaller magazines, weight, etc?

For me it just rubs me up the wrong way when people, even with good intentions, spread sensationalist rhetoric, often either knowingly or uncaringly perpetuating misinformation to sell their agenda as that is how injustices are done (or sometimes a lot of effort is wasted chasing the wrong solution).

Like the whole hysteria about assault weapons.

EDIT: I'm just posting in general here I'm not intending this directly as a reply to or pointed at anyone specifically in this thread.
 
Can you chamber an AR-15 in either of those calibres? Do you need that much stopping power for soft targets at the expense of recoil, noise, cost of rounds, smaller magazines, weight, etc?

No but you talk about .223 being high powered by civilian standards. Weapon is irrelevant.

No you don’t and you’re right, you can be a lot more mobile carrying the same number of 5.56 vs 7.62mm and you are reloading and probably missing less.

However, you won’t care about cost of ammo or probably weight while the adrenaline is kicking in. Unless you’re suppressed you don’t care about report either as you know you won’t have long to do most of your work and losing your hearing won’t be a problem when you’re dead. You might also prefer the over penetration of a 7.62mm round.

I’m merely pointing out that you call the AR15 a high powered rifle. There’s no such thing really so it makes it look like you are regurgitating stuff you’ve heard.
 
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