Today's mass shooting in the US

Werewolf said:
You're talking nonsense.

Yes pretty much anyone can stab someone.
However they tend not to be able to do it repeatedly to dozens of people with no training and no way for their victims to reach safety.

Meanwhile in the US you've routinely got idiots with guns shooting and killing multiple people who haven't got any chance to get to safety, and far, far faster than you could attempt to do it with a knife.
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In the US this person can legally own a gun: https://youtu.be/JwkDnAjQiVU - what could possibly go wrong.
 
Werewolf said:
You're talking nonsense.

Yes pretty much anyone can stab someone.
However they tend not to be able to do it repeatedly to dozens of people with no training and no way for their victims to reach safety.

Meanwhile in the US you've routinely got idiots with guns shooting and killing multiple people who haven't got any chance to get to safety, and far, far faster than you could attempt to do it with a knife.
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So why don't you go back to my original post and read it instead of talking "nonsense". And also, stop starting sentences with "You're talking nonsense" as if you're some definitive authority.

I said people were capable of stabbing and doing a lot damage, not with the same amount of lethality though, yet people don't.
 
Roar87 said:
So why don't you go back to my original post and read it instead of talking "nonsense". And also, stop starting sentences with "You're talking nonsense" as if you're some definitive authority.

I said people were capable of stabbing and doing a lot damage, not with the same amount of lethality though, yet people don't.
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Because stabbing someone is about as personal as it gets bar strangling them with your hands. Shooting someone is not, its stand-off, you just point and pull a trigger. Just about anyone could shoot an animal for food, ask them to stab it or cut its throat and its a very different thing. There is a reason mass killers use guns and its because its easy, mass stabbings isn't easy.
 
Werewolf said:
You can also reach safety from a blade by getting as little as a couple of meters away, behind glass, or just on the other side of a car...

Likewise cars can be used in attacks, but it's relatively easy to move out of the way of them most of the time, they can't hit people to the sides of them, and normally you're safe if you can get behind even just a small structure or another car, let alone inside a building.

Guns are pretty much unique in that there is no real "safe" distance unless you're behind fairly solid cover (far more solid than you find as many internal "walls" let alone doors and windows), you're not safe to the side of the person, and you're not safe above them, or inside a building.

There are very definite reasons America sees mass shooting as the preference rather than stabbings or drive throughs, and in countries that do have the mass stabbings they're very very rarely on the scale of even a small "mass shooting" in terms of casualties, for the simple reason that once you're aware of someone with a knife it's usually pretty easy to either stay out of their range, or reach some sort of safe location even if that's just blocking a cheap hardboard internal door or getting behind a glass door.

Not to mention someone armed with a knife can, and often is tackled by either unarmed bystanders, or police officers with nothing more than a glorified stick without the risk of the people attempting to stop him killing more bystanders.
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Agreed.

A key training point was knowing safe distance. That's the big difference.

I can't believe anyone could miss the point by such a distance. How ironic...
 
potatolord said:
Is that the best you can do?

My point stands, from years of experience.
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Does it? Because I didn't imagine someone would walk into a Krav Maga class, I'd imagine you'd choose a softer target with a knife where people weren't really "opponents" like is typical done in mass shootings.

Also, why even spend years learning how to fight against someone with a knife when in 99% of situations you literally turn and run, that's it
 
Roar87 said:
Does it? Because I didn't imagine someone would walk into a Krav Maga class, I'd imagine you'd choose a softer target with a knife where people weren't really "opponents" like is typical done in mass shootings.

Also, why even spend years learning how to fight against someone with a knife when in 99% of situations you literally turn and run, that's it
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I don't do krav maga.

Because I was training in using a weapon, not necessarily defending against one.

If you're in distance, you cannot turn and run. If you are out of distance, you flee.
 
0007 said:
*Four Dead, Including Gunman in Shooting at Hospital Campus In Oklahoma — Police Statement
www.fox13news.com

Oklahoma hospital shooting: 4 people killed, suspect dead, Tulsa police say

A gunman carrying a rifle and a handgun killed four people on Wednesday at a Tulsa, Oklahoma, medical building, police said.
www.fox13news.com www.fox13news.com
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Slightly odd, though not unusual, side effect - people searching for Tulsa, probably in relation to that shooting, is pushing content related to Tulsa up the rankings for recommendations on a few sites like YouTube - for instance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C18yBBjnGr8
 
kinetic747 said:
Someone must have left a door open.:o
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Or it was the masks, lockdowns, wokeness, trans, video games, rap music, young men wearing eye liner, not enough God, not enough guns, too many nurses and not enough armed security, nurses leaving doors open and Laura Ingram last night decided it was probably cannabis that made the Texas shooter murder kids :cry: What is the bet that the vaccine is next on that long list??
 
*Biden: Too Many Everyday Places in America Have Become Killing Fields
*Biden: Nothing Has Been Done After Many Mass Shootings, This Time We Must Actually Do Something
*Biden: This Is Not About Taking Away Anyone’s Guns
*Biden: How Much More Carnage Are We Willing to Accept
*Biden: We Need to Ban Assault Weapons and High-Capacity Magazines, Raise Age to Purchase Guns to 21
*Biden: We Need to Strengthen Background Checks and Red Flag Laws
*Biden: We Should Have Safe Storage Laws and Personal Liability for Not Locking Up a Gun
*Biden: We Should Repeal Liability Shield for Gun Manufacturers
*Biden: There Is a Serious Mental Health Crisis in the Country, We Need More Mental Health Services
*Biden: It’s Time for the Senate to Do Something
*Biden: He Supports Bipartisan Group in Senate Trying to Find Common Ground but Says It Is Unconscionable That a Majority of Republicans Want to Take No Action
https://youtu.be/XnWV_4muYsI?t=500
 
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