Today's mass shooting in the US

VincentHanna said:
No, I did not.

Aberdeen, Maryland shooting​

In 2018, in Aberdeen, Md., a 26-year-old shot and killed three people at a pharmaceuticals distribution center before turning the weapon on themselves. The sheriff said the shooter had been diagnosed as mentally ill in 2016, and The Washington Post reported that a close friend reported the shooter “suffered from bipolar disorder and struggled since early in high school with severe depression, partly connected to her feelings of not being accepted when she first came out as a gay teenage girl and later as transgender.”

2019 STEM School Highlands Ranch shooting​

The Denver incident involved two shooters who in 2019 opened fire at a public charter school focused on a math and science curriculum. One student was killed and eight were injured. Court documents said that one shooter, 16 at the time, told investigators he intended to target classmates who repeatedly mocked him because he was transgender.

Colorado Springs nightclub shooting​

In 2022, five people were killed and 25 injured at an LGBTQ nightclub by a 22-year-old shooter who claims to identify as nonbinary and uses the pronouns they and them. However, a police detective testified earlier this year that the shooter ran a neo-Nazi website, used gay and racial slurs while gaming online and posted an image of a rifle scope trained on a gay pride parade.
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In addition to not getting the point about the letter you apparently can't count aswell because the infographic should (at least) read 4 now shouldn't it....

(In addition to having it axis properly labelled and indicating it's source)

So where does the 2826 figure come from?

I suspect from here...

www.gunviolencearchive.org

Gun Violence Archive

www.gunviolencearchive.org www.gunviolencearchive.org

Which defines a mass shooting as an incident where 4 or more people (not including the shooter) are shot.

And if that's the case that 2826 figure is mostly made up of criminals, disproportionately from certain demographics who were not ideologically motivated in their use of firearms
 
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Caracus2k said:
It's your stupid infographic....

It's labelled 'mass shooting by gender status'

Not 'mass shootings' or something like 'shooting incidents'.

It's not everyone else fault that you have posted a load of old *****.

So why don't you scurry off and try and figure out where the numbers for the garbage you posted came from and what exactly the Y axis represents?
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This is literally the most pathetic semantics based argument i have seen on here for a while..and that is saying something.
 
Jono8 said:
This is literally the most pathetic semantics based argument i have seen on here for a while..and that is saying something.
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How about don't post garbage that has it axes labelled incorrectly and inaccurately (wrong number) and doesn't cite its source?

I would say that shouldn't be too much to expect but then it is you that I am responding to...
 
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potatolord said:
I don't live in the US and I'm not a teacher, so I'm not really able to give an informed answer.

I just think that makjng teachers carry guns is a bad idea. I'm always open to evidence-based proposals, but would set the bar very high on that. I didn't expect answers, because no-ine really knows- and that's an observation, not having a go at you.

I know the US will never ban guns. If Sandy Hook didn't drive change, nothing will.
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Personally I wouldn't want teachers to carry guns but perhaps a secure hidden safe they can access in an emergency, obviously with multiple layers of protection to avoid students accessing them. Wouldn't even have to be every teacher, maybe just select few.

Who knows, they need to try something. Gun free spaces certainly isn't going to protect anyone, just gives shooters time to do as they please.

Any suggestions yourself? Other than ban guns... or are you just here to criticise?
 
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ebilcake said:
Personally I wouldn't want teachers to carry guns but perhaps a secure hidden safe they can access in an emergency, obviously with multiple layers of protection to avoid students accessing them. Wouldn't even have to be every teacher, maybe just select few.

Who knows, they need to try something. Gun free spaces certainly isn't going to protect anyone, just gives shooters time to do as please.

Any suggestions yourself? Other than ban guns... or are you just here to criticise?
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Looks like Australia is doing it right.

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That infographic was made a while ago, so it doesn't include the latest US school shootings. I posted it in a Christian Facebook group, and received an immediate backlash from American Christians.

:rolleyes:
 
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ebilcake said:
Personally I wouldn't want teachers to carry guns but perhaps a secure hidden safe they can access in an emergency, obviously with multiple layers of protection to avoid students accessing them. Wouldn't even have to be every teacher, maybe just select few.

Who knows, they need to try something. Gun free spaces certainly isn't going to protect anyone, just gives shooters time to do as please.

Any suggestions yourself? Other than ban guns... or are you just here to criticise?
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Fair enough, but as I posted above I see lots of issues with that.

My main suggestions would be
- Restrict rifles to bolt action only, no semi-auto
- Restrictions on weapous ownership for people with mental health issues- and work to define what those issues should be
- Increased checks on new owners
- full inquiry to establish the way forward for protecting schools and other public spaces

Given the volume of guns available in America, any action should be aimed at the medium term.
 
potatolord said:
Fair enough, but as I posted above I see lots of issues with that.

My main suggestions would be
- Restrict rifles to bolt action only, no semi-auto
- Restrictions on weapous ownership for people with mental health issues- and work to define what those issues should be
- Increased checks on new owners
- full inquiry to establish the way forward for protecting schools and other public spaces

Given the volume of guns available in America, any action should be aimed at the medium term.
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Nobody can propose a realistic solution to the American gun problem, because there is no such solution. There are too many firearms, the lobbyists are too strong, legislation will always be too piecemeal, and the 2nd amendment is too lenient.

Forget about making suggestions, it's time to face the reality that America is unfixable. The sooner we all agree on that, the sooner we can move on to problems that can actually be addressed.
 
Sankari said:
Nobody can propose a realistic solution to the American gun problem, because there is no such solution. There are too many firearms, the lobbyists are too strong, legislation will always be too piecemeal, and the 2nd amendment is too lenient.

Forget about making suggestions, it's time to face the reality that America is unfixable. The sooner we all agree on that, the sooner we can move on to problems that can actually be addressed.
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Sadly, I think you're right.

God helps those who help themselves, and all that
 
After every event like this they say they're "praying" for the families.

Obviously they need to pray harder. Oh and they need more guns.

Leave America to it, it's an internal matter. If they believe the random murdering of children is an acceptable price for lax gun control then that's their business.
 
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