Today's mass shooting in the US

'Gun deaths among children are soaring.'

The number of U.S. kids dying by gunfire keeps rising.

Stunning stat: Gun deaths among America’s kids rose 50% in the last two years, according to a new Pew Research Center report. More children and teens were killed by guns in 2021 than in any year since 1999, the first year the CDC began tracking the data.

What's happening: While the majority of adult gun deaths are by suicide, children and teens killed by gunfire are more likely to die by homicide (60%).

  • And 2022 marked the most violent year in schools — with 46 shootings — since 1999, The Washington Post reports. The most recent shooting took four lives at the Covenant School in Nashville two weeks ago.
Zoom out: The rise in child and teen firearm deaths mirrors the overall increase in gun deaths in America, Pew notes.

  • There were 48,830 gun deaths among Americans in 2021. That was up 23% from 2019 and the highest yearly total on record.
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'Kids' here refers to under-18s.
 
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C Kent said:
Which is a different set of stats from your misleading Facebook infographic.
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Of course it's a different set of stats, this data has only just been released. The infographic can't include data that doesn't even exist yet. You still haven't shown that the infographic is misleading. You're simply being contrarian for the sake of it.

C Kent said:
Also, note where the biggest rise of 18 and under deaths are coming from.
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Yes, firearm homicide:

While the majority of adult gun deaths are by suicide, children and teens killed by gunfire are more likely to die by homicide (60%).
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Sankari said:
Of course it's a different set of stats, this data has only just been released. The infographic can't include data that doesn't even exist yet. You still haven't shown that the infographic is misleading. You're simply being contrarian for the sake of it.
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Already been pointed out that 'children' from your infographic are in the age range 1-19, it's freely available info from the last npr link.
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Yes, firearm homicide:
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Cute, that's not what I mean and you know it :rolleyes:
 
So we've established that Longbow and C Kent believe the infographic is 'misleading' because:

* firearm suicides aren't firearm deaths
* people under the ages of 18 & 19 aren't children

Real big brain stuff. Top tier thinking.

C Kent said:
Already been pointed out that 'children' from your infographic are in the age range 1-19, it's freely available info from the last npr link.
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Yes, what's your point? Are you going to quibble because two different sets of statistics used a metric that varied by a single year?

C Kent said:
Cute, that's not what I mean and you know it :rolleyes:
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Well that's literally what the data shows, so what did you mean?
 
Sankari said:
So we've established that Longbow and C Kent believe the infographic is 'misleading' because:

* firearm suicides aren't firearm deaths
* people under the ages of 18 & 19 aren't children

Real big brain stuff. Top tier thinking.



Yes, what's your point? Are you going to quibble because two different sets of statistics used a metric that varied by a single year?
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19 year olds are adults smooth brain, they aren't classed as children anywhere else, hell 18 years olds are also adults. It's the very definition of misleading, in order for your silly little facebook image to be correct it needs to post the data for 17 and under.
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Well that's literally what the data shows, so what did you mean?
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Where is the rise the highest? Which demographic? Hint its the usual one that contributes to the majority of firearm homicides. The major contributing factor to the rise are a bunch of gangbangers shooting **** up and innocent "children" getting caught in the crossfire.
 
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robgmun said:
If they want other people to call them a woman, then yes
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Then sign me up! Well either way the government is quite happy just not giving us any care on the NHS.

I came out last year, most people in the UK don't even care and that's brilliant, I am just trying to get on with my life.

Some people however just seem insulted that I exist and I take the "kill them with kindness approach", but in a lot of ways I am lucky to have a supportive family and job. People really appreciated me saying in my email I was not trying to trip anyone up and I would make mistakes along with them, but i'd appreciate the support. Everyone have been lovely and i've just had a few questions is all.

If you think that's a mental illness well compared to stress and a lot of others I have seen it's certainly on the mild side.

This is all a smoke screen for the government doing a bang up job of simply screwing over everyone not in the 1% by the way.
 
So the bodycam footage is out now from the Police officers very brave.

Hopefully that officer recovers who was shot in the head 10 days on the job and has to deal with this!

Nobody needs that high powered rifle it's just madness, when will it ever end.
 
Meaker said:
Then sign me up! Well either way the government is quite happy just not giving us any care on the NHS.

I came out last year, most people in the UK don't even care and that's brilliant, I am just trying to get on with my life.

Some people however just seem insulted that I exist and I take the "kill them with kindness approach", but in a lot of ways I am lucky to have a supportive family and job. People really appreciated me saying in my email I was not trying to trip anyone up and I would make mistakes along with them, but i'd appreciate the support. Everyone have been lovely and i've just had a few questions is all.

If you think that's a mental illness well compared to stress and a lot of others I have seen it's certainly on the mild side.

This is all a smoke screen for the government doing a bang up job of simply screwing over everyone not in the 1% by the way.
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I'm happy that you're doing well. And I have nothing against anyone existing. And how you live your life is none of my business. I worked with a highly capable and intelligent transperson who seemed well-adjusted.

But a line has been crossed by the TRA and I will be taking a stand. When trans charities like Mermaids and the media target children you're going to get a hell of a pushback. And when they turn to violence punching women and men in the face at protests while at the same time claiming they're the ones under attack. Then I'm not going to tell a bare-faced lie to keep others happy, it's social gaslighting in its most fundamental form. It's like asking people to say 2+2 doesn't equal 4. If you can force your brain to accept something that isn't true then reality itself can be warped, and this can and has led to madness. And those that support this line of thinking show a great lack of character

Also, I take it as you just came out (I mean is that the correct term? Are you actually gay or straight?) then i take it you haven't taken any hormones or chemicals and is pre-op. That's where a lot of people get cold feet or deep regret when they realise what they have to go through to do some extraordinary damage to the human body. In the end when it is all done I highly doubt you'll be truly happy deep down, and it'll be a lie you'll have to tell yourself for the rest of your life

You may be the exception rather than the rule. But it does seem a vast majority of trans people have deep psychological and mental issues long before even before they come out.
 
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robgmun said:
I'm happy that you're doing well. And I have nothing against anyone existing. And how you live your life is none of my business. I worked with a highly capable and intelligent transperson who seemed well-adjusted.

But a line has been crossed by the TRA and I will be taking a stand. When trans charities like Mermaids and the media target children you're going to get a hell of a pushback. And when they turn to violence punching women and men in the face at protests while at the same time claiming they're the ones under attack. Then I'm not going to tell a bare-faced lie to keep others happy, it's social gaslighting in its most fundamental form. It's like asking people to say 2+2 doesn't equal 4. If you can force your brain to accept something that isn't true then reality itself can be warped, and this can and has led to madness. And those that support this line of thinking show a great lack of character

Also, I take it as you just came out (I mean is that the correct term? Are you actually gay or straight?) then i take it you haven't taken any hormones or chemicals and is pre-op. That's where a lot of people get cold feet or deep regret when they realise what they have to go through to do some extraordinary damage to the human body. In the end when it is all done I highly doubt you'll be truly happy deep down, and it'll be a lie you'll have to tell yourself for the rest of your life

You may be the exception rather than the rule. But it does seem a vast majority of trans people have deep psychological and mental issues long before even before they come out.
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I wonder why they have issues with the media the way it is and attitudes like this?

I'm not going to discuss my medical details on this forum and don't feel it's relevant.

Having dealt with people having any place they could turn to removed (see mermaids), or the ability to test things in schools like how a different name or set of pronouns in school because people freak out at reversable options make it the more all or nothing. It's a lot of processes being put in place by people who don't understand and refuse to ask those actually going through this. Much like gay people were labelled as mentally ill or those in mixed race relationships depending on what time period you look at.
 
Meaker said:
Having dealt with people having any place they could turn to removed (see mermaids), or the ability to test things in schools like how a different name or set of pronouns in school because people freak out at reversable options make it the more all or nothing. It's a lot of processes being put in place by people who don't understand and refuse to ask those actually going through this. Much like gay people were labelled as mentally ill or those in mixed race relationships depending on what time period you look at.
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We're obviously going to have to agree to disagree, but comparing transgender ideology to the experiences of gay people or those in mixed-race relationships may not be entirely accurate. The whole nature versus nurture discussion isn't fully closed as there are serious questions that need answering.

This means that society shouldn't accept or promote any particular ideology without question. Encouraging children and teenagers to experiment with their gender identity in school could have long-lasting psychological effects that we don't yet fully understand and could be contributing to social contagion. And I believe it is entirely inappropriate to have this discussion at primary school with underage children without the parent's consent or even knowledge. And the actions of charities like Mermaids frankly should be put under investigation and their charity status called into question.
 
robgmun said:
We're obviously going to have to agree to disagree, but comparing transgender ideology to the experiences of gay people or those in mixed-race relationships may not be entirely accurate. The whole nature versus nurture discussion isn't fully closed as there are serious questions that need answering.
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I see the point being made, or at least trying to be made, generally, those that are trans are called mentally ill, generally speaking, but the same was said of gay people less than a hundred years ago.

Personally, I don't get it, you can be a man, or a woman, and like people of the same sex, if you are a man who thinks they were born in the wrong body, but still like women, whats the point in the drugs and transitioning, yeah fine, wear women clothes, but surely not just be a transvestive, guess it doesn't effect me so I wouldn't get it...
 
Trig said:
I see the point being made, or at least trying to be made, generally, those that are trans are called mentally ill, generally speaking, but the same was said of gay people less than a hundred years ago.

Personally, I don't get it, you can be a man, or a woman, and like people of the same sex, if you are a man who thinks they were born in the wrong body, but still like women, whats the point in the drugs and transitioning, yeah fine, wear women clothes, but surely not just be a transvestive, guess it doesn't effect me so I wouldn't get it...
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That's the rub, people don't get it. But rather than sitting down with those going through this and getting their input and looking at results they just make decisions not even necessarily from malice but ignorance and not wanting to learn.

Just like you say you can be a man who likes a man, there are places still that would insist that's simply not possible.

I'll say this, I saw my dentist for the first time since coming out and they were amazed at the difference, even by the way I stood they could tell I was happier.
 
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