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Maybe read back a few days...
Today's mass shooting in the US
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This is Whataboutism 101 though. Other things that happen in society are irrelevant to this case. The only issue pertenant are that a man shot a 16 year old boy because the 16 year old knocked on his door. There was no other interraction between the 2. The old man's defense is 'he was big and tall' and he claims he tried to enter the house. The boy's testimony states that he removed the door cover to knock on the door. You can not knock on the door without removing this cover, otherwise it would damage the cover. If this is true the boy did not attempt to enter the man's home. So we then have to ask if this is fair and reasonable force for the threat. If there is no justification it becomes attempted murder. The motivation of the crime isn't that relevant but frankly it just so happens he hasn't shot anyone else knocking on his door but he has shot a black boy and that would indicate he is either more scared or prejudiced against young black males. If I was his lawyer I'd try to have the old man declared to be suffering from senility and not in a fit state of mind as a line of defence.
I also think most reasonable people would be less concerned about whether this man is branded a racist, which in itself maybe simplistic, and more concerned he's commited a heinous crime and is a threat to society. His ex-wife also said she believed him to be a violent man, which is in itself more concerning the simply being prejudiced:
She said his alleged crime did not shock her. 'I was always scared of him,' she told the newspaper. 'It doesn't surprise me, what happened.'
Clayton said that during their marriage he would frequently become violently angry and smash objects in their house.
When she reported him to the police, she said, the officers told her that it was his house and he could do as he pleased. She said she did not know about his alleged crime until her daughter rang her and told her.
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You do know that the bullet clearly did not go in his forehead and out the back right?You rang chuckles?
"life threatening severe gunshot wound to the head"
This kid should be in the next marvel movie as he's got Wolverine levels of healing power
You do know that any form of bullet striking the head, graze, penetration is classed as a gunshot wound to the head.
So why are you pretending he is some form of mutant but then also why are you trying to doubt the severity of crime and injury?
I think your ability to not believe or have any empathy towards the victim shows more about you than any one else here. I'd hate to know your thoughts on victims of other crimes.
At the moment we only have 2 statements, one from the kid and one from the old man. The kids statement is he politely rang the bell and waited then the old guy came out blasting. The old dudes statement is that someone was prowling around outside and trying to open the door to get in. The only evidence we have so far are the injuries suffered - on one hand you have the kid/family's statement that he was shot in the head and then shot in the arm as he lay on the ground, whereas the old fella claims he opened his door and fired 2 shots through the storm cover. The injuries that are apparent from pictures shown would back up the old fella's claim as Yarl had, what appeared to be, injuries from glass shards in his face.
The narrative was set by the prosecutor who claimed there was an element of racism because essentially white guy and black guy, you yourself said it
Where's the evidence to back the claim up from the prosecutor? Everything else at this point in time from the grandson and ex wife is conjecture and hearsay.
Point to where the headshot wound is, I'll even help you out as the mother claims he was shot in the head, above the left eye.
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Grazes aren't life threatening. This is the kid who doctors were allegedly quoted as saying it was a miracle he was still alive.
@VincentHanna cpuld you explain how I was 'soectacularly' wrong 6 months ago? I'll wait.
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I said "Massively", not whatever you just wrote there.
UK police: 'Extreme right wing motivation behind firebomb attack' on immigration centre
Two staff were injured after homemade incendiary devices were thrown at a centre in Dover last Sunday.
www.thejournal.ie
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Dont get what your point is.
Maybe I should shoot you in the head, graze ya and then tell you to man up and say its not a gunshot nor a head wound.
A head wound is a head wound, a gunshot wound is a gun shot wound, regardless if its penetrated and blew your skull out or not.
Erm are you actually serious?
If the bullet angle was different it would have been a clear penetrative wound which more than likely would have taken the kids life.
Seriously how ****** up are you two, zero empathy and constant the victims fault.
where's the life threatening headshot wound, that's all I'm asking for. Seems to me that you/@VincentHanna cant provide the evidence to back up the claim from the family. Hell at this point in time I'll take any sort of headwound as its clear as day there is no gunshot wound, be it a graze or whatever.
Any gunshot wound to the head is life threatening, even if graze it could still do enough damage to have serious effects on you and your health moving forward outside of being shot.
As shown by yourself, if child was stood a couple inches to one side, it would have missed, on the other side its clearly going to penetrate the skull and more than likely kill the child.
Why are you debating the childs injury again? I answer your questions why dont you be a big boy and answer mine.
The injury or worst case scenario of death isnt the problem here, the problem is some old ****** who has the right to own firearms, has shot at someone who simply knocked on the door.
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Point to it, show me where the injury is on the picture you quoted.
and if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle
Because words matter, if someone claims that their child was shot in the head and is suffering from a life-threatening gun shot wound at the same time they've got a gofundme up its emotive language to get the leftists npc to chuck money around, hell it's worked as its close to 4million.
There's also the point that if the child's injuries are exaggerated what else has been embellished in the story.
show me where the gunshot wound is.
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I dont need to answer this question, you did this by yourself already, unless you forgot already.
So why dont you go and be a big boy and answer some of mine.
And I'd put a bullet in him/her and then tell them to grow up and get over it. Then I'd make forum posts debating the legitimacy of their injury and throw shade on any attempts to improve the situation for the victim of said shooting.
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not your money, whys it your problem?
Or you just jealous of people caring for the recovery of this child? if a majority of donators were the same ethnicity, I bet you'd have a problem with that too.
Its entertaining that I still live in your head rent free that you cant do anything without tagging or mentioning me.
A fool and their money are soon parted, the grift is real. Given the family are exaggerating the 'victim's' injuries then their whole story is ********, how about that.
You do not have to because you cant, we know. it's a real simple question, show me where the head wound is.
Which question?
A gun safety advocate threatening violence, well I never. I'm shocked.
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You have tagged me throughout this conversation number of times when I haven't been active to get your point across. Evidenced yesterday, now today as well, nothing to add to the conversation just a sentiment about myself.
Stop trying to act like I am not living in your head, rent free, laying in bed smoking a pipe.