It's probably more to do with conflation and propaganda that seems to pervade modern society.
Today's mass shooting in the US
- Thread starter Rroff
- Start date
It's probably more to do with conflation and propaganda that seems to pervade modern society.
Caporegime
- Joined
- 30 Jul 2013
- Posts
- 29,531
Other than being a PETA freak do we know her political leanings, or if she was even interested in politics?
Seems more like a mentally disturbed narcissist to me.
Seems more like a mentally disturbed narcissist to me.
Because it's everything the American left wouldn't want in a mass shooter. When it's a white male, they absolutely lap it up, and laugh in the face of anyone who dares to claim the person may be mentally ill.
Permabanned
Personally I am more concerned about 48 murders on the streets of London in less than 4 months than what's happening in the USA....
Caporegime
- Joined
- 30 Jul 2013
- Posts
- 29,531
Not that I am "the American left", but I wouldn't want anything in a mass shooter, personally...i'd rather not have them at all.
Statistically it's far more likely to be a man though.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/476445/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-gender/
Statistically it's far more likely to be a man though.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/476445/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-gender/
Soldato
And so you should, a result of consecutive cuts to police funding?
Permabanned
No, New York police funding per capita is less, their Draconian action against ALL crime worked well. we need less PC, and a lot more targeted stop and search based on those that are at the forefront of these murders to be brought back. Quite simple, but hard to bring in given the denial and whining of certain factions.
Last edited:
quite probably, yes... more police officers + longer prison sentences = less crime
IIRC freakonomics covered both of those
edit - found the article/paper.. it is interesting, exposes some of the apparent conventional ideas of what causes crime to fall:
http://freakonomics.com/2006/03/16/lets-do-the-crime-drop-again/
http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/LevittUnderstandingWhyCrime2004.pdf
Last edited:
Absolutely not.
The fact that there may be more police officers crammed into a police station or walking around the corner does NOT magically mean a criminal out there somewhere is magically going to decide not to commit a crime.
Criminal 1: hey lets go commit some crime
Criminal 2: Don't you know they have THREE extra officers in the local constabulary, we better not **** with them.
Criminal 1: ah you're right lets just forget this life of crime and go become perfect law abiding citizens.
Yeah that's not how crime works. And this sort of thinking is simply pushing society deeper into wanting a police state.
People seem to think the police are a bunch of superheroes/batmans or something. And that the mere thought of there being a few extra police officers nearby will magically stop criminals committing crime. This is a very dangerous idea.
The only thing more police can achieve right now is make it possible to dish out more punishments - not reduce the occurrence of crime. The assumption that a richer police force will magically cause less crimes to OCCUR is an extremely dangerous assumption. There is a step which must happen before this is true and people completely ignore that step. It's a transition into a complete police state, that must happen before sheer idea of police numbers is enough to cause crimes to not occur.
The only thing more police can achieve right now is make it possible to dish out more punishments - not reduce the occurrence of crime. The assumption that a richer police force will magically cause less crimes to OCCUR is an extremely dangerous assumption. There is a step which must happen before this is true and people completely ignore that step. It's a transition into a complete police state, that must happen before sheer idea of police numbers is enough to cause crimes to not occur.
Caporegime
Freakonomics is a great example of a popular science book which gained great traction from the public but isn't well regarded by people who actually know anything about the subject.
Re: the particular claim of abortion legalization leading to a crime drop, Wikipedia has some discussion.
Soldato
Gentrification. A driving force behind increased and eventual decreased rates in crime.
I know, that abortion claim was particularly controversial.
As I recall, one of the main reasons for the controversy was that Abortion rates are not equal.
A third of all abortions in the US are performed on Black Women, around a third of Black pregnancies end in abortion.
Consider this random article on the subject (I make no claims for its veracity, It is just something I found) http://www.abort73.com/abortion/abortion_and_race/
There was the predictable outrage at the implied suggestion that Violent crime was largely a Black issue, and that a "Genocidal" policy aimed at stopping Black people from breeding had proved an effective strategy for mitigating the situation.
Caporegime
Welcome to America, where mass shootings are no longer newsworthy:
4 dead and 4 injured at Tennessee waffle house. Shot by a nude gunman with an AR15.
www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-nation/wp/2018/04/22/at-least-3-dead-several-wounded-in-waffle-house-shooting-near-nashville-police-say/
Well done to the guy who got the gun off him.
www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-nation/wp/2018/04/22/at-least-3-dead-several-wounded-in-waffle-house-shooting-near-nashville-police-say/
Well done to the guy who got the gun off him.
Plus the removal of lead from petrol is also believed to be a factor in falling crime rates.
Commissario
Aye, something to do with what is basically thought to have been a low level of lead poisoning in children which lead to issues with the development of the brain*.
IIRC there is a very strong corrolation between the sale and use of leaded fuels and a drop in crime and it tracks even on fairly local levels (individual towns or states), whilst things like "being hard on crime" don't, but it only becomes apparent about 20 years after the switch to unleaded fuels in that area (basically either the effects of the lead have worn off, or the first generation to grow up without it in the air).
*I think studies for over a century have shown it can affect the skull size/IQ of children whose parents were exposed to it, and in children exposed to it once born.