Tomb Raider 2: Rise of the Tomb Raider Announced

ps3ud0 said:
MS confirmed the exclusive has a duration of which we do not know the length except for guesswork, hell that duration could quite easily change too...

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That means bugger all without context. That just means MS have a contract for TR to be exclusive for a length of time, there is absolutely no reason why it wouldn't just be expanded. Its likely just a get out clause for MS should the game flop.

It should still be considered an MS exclusive for as long as MS decide they want it to be, which if they are serious about the franchise and want it to span multiple games, will be years.

Also, if they do let the exclusivity expire, theres still no confirmation it will be on other platforms. It just says the contract means CD could release it on other platforms if they wanted, not that they specifically will.

Nope, as far as I'm concerned this is still an Xbox exclusive for the foreseeable future, and that makes me sad panda, but hey ho.
 
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As it stands, Uncharted is a much better franchise than Tomb raider these days. Tr had success early on but then many many years of awful releases. I didn't enjoy any after TR2 actually.

However, if this agreement means MS can put money into it and help them bring TR up to the level on Uncharted then that's good right? OK so PS4 owners may not benefit, but the One will be sub £100 eventually so having another good series to go back to later is surely a good thing.
If I'd been on 360 last gen then bought a PS3 years later I'd have still really enjoyed playing Uncharted 1-3.


Also, Sony do similar things. Sony were given the chance to buy into Demon's Souls, but chose not to at the time saying the game was 'terrible'.
It did really well and create a good fanbase and Sony later said that it was one of the biggest mistakes they had made.
They then bought into the franchise, but this did not include Dark Souls 1 and 2.

Fast forward to todya, and Bloodborne is a PS4 exclusive thanks to that deal years ago.

MS could have just as easily picked that up at the time.



I think it's a bit crap of CD and SE, but I don't know why people would be annoyed at MS. It's a reasonable business aquisition for them and CD/SE have certainly sold out as far as their fanbase goes but can anybody really be surprised giving how this industry works?

Honestly, the gaming industry is such a mess with deception, condescension towards consumers and general ignorance and self-entitlement from developers so it's not really surprising that they wouldn't care what fans thought.
 
Skeeter said:
That means bugger all without context. That just means MS have a contract for TR to be exclusive for a length of time, there is absolutely no reason why it wouldn't just be expanded. Its likely just a get out clause for MS should the game flop.
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Theres very little reason for MS to make that statement as allowing people to think is a permanent one is far more useful. For the fact they felt they had to say, points to it being a timed exclusive IMO, if it was permanent that statement would have said so...
Skeeter said:
It should still be considered an MS exclusive for as long as MS decide they want it to be, which if they are serious about the franchise and want it to span multiple games, will be years.

Also, if they do let the exclusivity expire, theres still no confirmation it will be on other platforms. It just says the contract means CD could release it on other platforms if they wanted, not that they specifically will.

Nope, as far as I'm concerned this is still an Xbox exclusive for the foreseeable future, and that makes me sad panda, but hey ho.
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EDIT: Actually I kinda of agree with your further point that while that duration is unknown its not worth speculating when it will hit other platforms (surely it would do so once the contract has been served and that the payment MS has made covered the potential loss of sales during that period on other platforms). That duration could be mere months or years just depends on how much MS spent, though the whole 'launch holiday 2015 exclusively on Xbox' colours that period of time...

Not a chance its a multi-game deal - probably be cheaper to sell CD and the IP to MS :p

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Cant see what all the rage is about, both console's have had there fair share of third party exclusives, if it helps sell the console then they will do it.

if you want to play every game that's good you need all consoles, if you want to play uncharted you have to have a playstation, simple, there are plenty of 3rd party exclusives on playstation that are not on x1 but I don't see x1 owners kicking off big time.

to show how petty all this can be i'll refer to a post on gaf the other week were there was a petition to get halo on playstation, yes there realy was!! lol am sorry if you wanna play those games you have to buy that console.

Sony will have there fair share of third party exclusives over this gen, it was rumoured that the next big resident evil will be playstation exclusive, am sure there wont be the outrage over that if true
 
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When will people realise it's a lot to do with it being the sequel that annoys. The first game was better than most thought it would be, so everyone was eager to play the next instalment, It being timed exclusive doesn't make it as bad as it was.

I don't think the commotion would have been half as bad if we were talking about the first game.
 
ZG002 said:
When will people realise it's a lot to do with it being the sequel that annoys. The first game was better than most thought it would be, so everyone was eager to play the next instalment, It being timed exclusive doesn't make it as bad as it was.

I don't think the commotion would have been half as bad if we were talking about the first game.
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so if as rumours are saying the next resident evil being playstation exclusive should there be a huge wave of people unhappy?

I can understand that people want to play the game, but its a business and money talks. if the game shifts Xbox's then good job done. if the game flops its there own fault. in the long run it could help ps4 with longer development time to tweak
 
I couldn't give a **** about it being a business, I'm not making money from this. I'm having to wait longer to play a game I want to play. Which is how most see it.

Resident evil is pretty knacked these days and not many seems to care about the next instalment tbh. But yeah some will hate it if it does go exclusive.
 
yeah but if you want to play it you'll need an xbox unless you wait, same when tomb raider 2 came out on playstation 1 Saturn players had to swap consoles. I get it is a bit crap but that's how it is and will always be. sony if they had the chance would do it, Microsoft got the chance and took it.
this gen will be like this all the way thru I bet ya, Microsoft are trying to claw back gamers by doing this and fair play to them, Sony have sold 2-1 and don't need to do this.
 
ZG002 said:
I don't think the commotion would have been half as bad if we were talking about the first game.
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Exactamundo!

I'm not annoyed that a Tomb Raider game is Xbox exclusive, I'm annoyed that a second Tomb Raider game in a series is Xbox exclusive after the first was multi platform.

If the whole franchise was exclusive, or the whole franchise was multi platform that would be fine. Its the switch part way through, thus alienating a chunk of fans, that has caused the uproar.
 
I thought the last TR and reboot was great, but tbh I could not care one way or another on this one mainly due to the high number of games that I plan on getting this year and into next year.

Fallout 4 & Dark Souls 3 are all I need, throw in SW Battlefront & Uncharted 4 and that's 2015 & 2016 pretty much sorted :)
 
Being released around the same time as fallout 4 is seriously going to hurt this one I feel.... Not mention uncharted collection on ps4, so two heavy hitters already and anyone without an x1 will most likely go for uncharted collection even if they have played the games previously on ps3 as uncharted 1 will benefit greatly from a bump in frame rate and resolution..

To even further add injury is then the year after when it hits ps4 , uncharted 4 will have arrived. Anyone who hasn't picked up on x1 by then and owns a ps4 will most likely pass it by due to it being mostly forgot about or just no longer wished for..

I think the timing for this title is poor , fallout 4 is just too big and tomb raider just isn't . it might have stood a better chance if released at the same time on PC and ps4 but the staggered release dates I feel will harm this titles chances greatly..

Have to wait and see, but going on the press release from square saying it was a hard choice to release on x1 first just screams damage control and regret , but that's IMO and to even announce future platform release dates just seemed odd as well. It sorta tells you. Don't worry , you'll get it eventually pretty much taking away any incentive to even buy an x1 for it anyhow.

A really strange timed exclusive deal if you ask me...
 
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Being released around the same time as fallout 4 is seriously going to hurt this one I feel.... Not mention uncharted collection on ps4, so two heavy hitters already and anyone without an x1 will most likely go for uncharted collection even if they have played the games previously on ps3 as uncharted 1 will benefit greatly from a bump in frame rate and resolution..

To even further add injury is then the year after when it hits ps4 , uncharted 4 will have arrived. Anyone who hasn't picked up on x1 by then and owns a ps4 will most likely pass it by due to it being mostly forgot about or just no longer wished for..

I think the timing for this title is poor , fallout 4 is just too big and tomb raider just isn't . it might have stood a better chance if released at the same time on PC and ps4 but the staggered release dates I feel will harm this titles chances greatly..

Have to wait and see, but going on the press release from square saying it was a hard choice to release on x1 first just screams damage control and regret , but that's IMO and to even announce future platform release dates just seemed odd as well. It sorta tells you. Don't worry , you'll get it eventually pretty much taking away any incentive to even buy an x1 for it anyhow.

A really strange timed exclusive deal if you ask me...
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Can't disagree. I was looking at getting this but then saw Fallout 4 is out the exact same day so I'll be getting that. I'll still get this but not on release and maybe not even new(might get it off the MM). I wonder if we'll have SE moaning about sales the way EA did for TitanFall?

And SE have come out and said they KNEW that making it a timed exclusive would upset the fans. Yet they did it anyway. I honestly hope they lose a boat load of cash for this game.
 
Wont be worth waiting for, will be completed on the pc well before it hits the ps4, having had the ps4 since lauch day it's been rather a dull experience, the only hope i have is unchartered.
 
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