Tomb Raider 2: Rise of the Tomb Raider Announced

Oh, I thought it was totally exclusive, that's fine.

I do find it quite funny; I seem to remember someone at the publisher saying that Tomb Raider had failed to do as well as predicted blah blah, now the publishers are happy to buy in to a timed exclusive (reducing their initial market for sales), I wonder if after this second game is released they will continue to bemoan the lack of sales.
 
dakaiez said:
If it's a new game and it's decided they want to focus on one console, then that's fine with me for both sides. I'll end up with both consoles eventually anyway and some of the Xbone games i can't get on the PS4 and vice versa.

It's when a game has been on both then gets turned into an exclusive then it's when i don't actually agree with it. You can understand customers getting angry when that happens, especially having played the previous copy.
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So why did no one say anything when Sony did the exact same thing, in fact paying TR to "specifically not be on the Sega System".

Why wasnt their up roar about that, or at least saying " my my, how the tables have turned" etc.
 
cu3ed said:
So why did no one say anything when Sony did the exact same thing, in fact paying TR to "specifically not be on the Sega System".

Why wasnt their up roar about that, or at least saying " my my, how the tables have turned" etc.
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Talk about clutching at straws; that was over 15 years ago! It was also a completely different company at the time and really has no bearing on the current situation.

Whether MS are doing it now and Sony have done it in the past is rather irrelevant really, we're all aware that companies pay for exclusives. It's SE's decision to take the deal so that's where the frustration is being aimed at (apart from the minority who are misdirecting it at MS for some reason).
 
Yeah it's a little illogical to blame MS. All they're doing is putting a deal on the table. It's up to SE to accept or decline it knowing the consequences.

Glad to hear it's a timed exclusive. Look forward to getting this on the PC.
 
TheVoice said:
Talk about clutching at straws; that was over 15 years ago! It was also a completely different company at the time and really has no bearing on the current situation.

Whether MS are doing it now and Sony have done it in the past is rather irrelevant really, we're all aware that companies pay for exclusives. It's SE's decision to take the deal so that's where the frustration is being aimed at (apart from the minority who are misdirecting it at MS for some reason).
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Nice that you can just wipe history like that, it shows that the company has been willing to make deals with both parties like it in the past, and hate to tell you, its going to happen in the future.
What about games that Sony has paid for exclusive content in Multi-platform games? keeping it from being on other platforms?
Their inst a minority pointing at MS, just as many are if not well over half as some how some reason angry at MS.

Ive never seen such first world problems about something rather very trivial.
 
cu3ed said:
Nice that you can just wipe history like that, it shows that the company has been willing to make deals with both parties like it in the past, and hate to tell you, its going to happen in the future.
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I'm not wiping history, I'm pointing out that a deal involving Tomb Raider 15 years ago when it was an Eidos property has nothing to do with a deal involving it now. Saying there was no uproar back then is pointless; maybe there was? Not like we'd ever know either way given the internet then wasn't what it is now, and nor was the gaming industry.

And yes, I'm well aware it's commonplace within the industry, I've already said that.

cu3ed said:
What about games that Sony has paid for exclusive content in Multi-platform games? keeping it from being on other platforms?
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What about it? Why are you being so defensive over MS? :confused:

cu3ed said:
Their inst a minority pointing at MS, just as many are if not well over half as some how some reason angry at MS.
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Fine, so go argue with them rather than the ones who are clearly directing their disappointment at SE. Instead you seem to be picking fights with people who haven't even mentioned MS or directed any criticism at them.
 
I don't see where all the "hate" towards MS is i think it's more directed to the company who took the deal. In the end people have the right to air their thoughts, even if it's something you don't actually agree with. I've had every Playstation that has come out plus the Xbox and 360 and will look at a one later down the line, there is not hate here at all for any company.

There is a difference having a game as completely exclusive or even timed, over paid for content. They are still getting the game, just without the bonus content that is promised by your consoles developer.

In the end regardless of timed or not, if they had problems not meeting the targets when it was multi platform then being even a timed exclusive is going to hurt them this time around even more so. It's their choice as is others to either skip the game or buy it second hand as is the choice of others to still get it on release even be it a later one.
 
Seems highly bloody-minded to make a sequel an exclusive. New IP's, fine, everyone's not had a chance to get wrapped up in it yet. But a sequel to a series I'm already invested in? :rolleyes:

Screw you, Crystal Dynamics, will be making sure they don't get any of my cash in future. :)
 
Just out of curiosity, has this happened with other big third party titles in the last couple of gens? I mean an established series disappearing off a certain platform for a sequel or subsequent games?

I can think of it the other way round (mass effect, dead rising, left4dead all started on xbox and went to other platforms for subsequent releases etc, but their first iteration was a new IP).

I guess now SE/CD are stuck as MS have said it was timed but SE/CD aren't allowed to say how long it is timed for. Probably would have been better if they waited a day or two before publishing their statement (which is what seems to have annoyed most people).

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dakaiez said:
I don't see where all the "hate" towards MS is i think it's more directed to the company who took the deal.
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Totally agree. SE deserve all the anger as this deal is purely out of greed. They've taken the deal to make a quick load of cash from MS whilst making sure they can also eat the rest of the cake by making it a timed exclusive.
Personally I think MS would have been better spending the money on a completely new game. Maybe get Rare making something awesome that will blow people away.
 
DannyDrama said:
Seems highly bloody-minded to make a sequel an exclusive. New IP's, fine, everyone's not had a chance to get wrapped up in it yet. But a sequel to a series I'm already invested in? :rolleyes:

Screw you, Crystal Dynamics, will be making sure they don't get any of my cash in future. :)
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Surely its the publisher at fault here, rather than the developer.

Sony and MS have both pulled this trick many times. As a gamer, and a huge fan of the last game, it's annoying. At least it's only a timed exclusive. It would help to know how long though :p
 
Disappointed at the news.Crystal Dynamics will not be getting my money. Will buy it second hand if or when it comes out on the ps4.

Pretty crap by microsoft imho. Go invest the money in a new IP or something instead of throwing money at well established ones. Kinda turning me off buying an xbone in a year or two.
 
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