Tower block fire - london

No, Daily Mail are jumping to that conclusion as always. Let's publish his face, name, ethnicity, family members (he's a black Ethiopian btw) and essentially label him as the cause where potentially dozens of people have lost their lives.

The story said 'Mr Kebede banged on a neighbour's door and alerted her to the fire, potentially saving many lives'. Do people actually read the story first or just jump to wild conclusions?
 
No, Daily Mail are jumping to that conclusion as always. Let's publish his face, name, ethnicity, family members (he's a black Ethiopian btw) and essentially label him as the cause where potentially dozens of people have lost their lives.

They quite clearly state it's his fridge. Anyone with half a brain therefore takes the attitude I did of "man, poor must feel like crap even though there's probably nothing he could have done about it". Not - "man, the guys fridge caught fire - time to string him up from the nearest lamp-post".
 
The story said 'Mr Kebede banged on a neighbour's door and alerted her to the fire, potentially saving many lives'. Do people actually read the story first or just jump to wild conclusions?

Precisely. No. They like to rant like swivel eyed loons.
 
Yeah...what's your point? They're not saying he started it. That a faulty fridge did.


The sentence starts ' the man ' , that points primary blame on a person, and secondary blame on an appliance.

You clearly see the world in a different way.
 
Precisely. No. They like to rant like swivel eyed loons.
Still yet to hear any good reason for publicly identifying him and plastering his face all over their website? What does that achieve in a story that's entirely innocently blaming a fridge?
 
Given the fact in their article they state:

  • Behailu Kebede raised the alarm as the Grenfell Tower inferno began to spread, his neighbours have said
  • Mr Kebede banged on a neighbour's door and alerted her to the fire, potentially saving many lives

It hardly seems they're trying to put blame on him. Yes they're using some form of click bait to get people to click the actual article, but it's clear from scanning it, they're not putting any form of blame on him at all, quite the opposite actually.
 
They quite clearly state it's his fridge. Anyone with half a brain therefore takes the attitude I did of "man, poor must feel like crap even though there's probably nothing he could have done about it". Not - "man, the guys fridge caught fire - time to string him up from the nearest lamp-post".

That's not where the focus is, and you're ignoring the people bringing up the same point. Daily Mail readers obviously rely on big pictures to tell the story, and instead of the just titling the article 'Faulty fridge thought to be cause of fire' and maybe useful pictures of possible reasons to why it might do that

The story said 'Mr Kebede banged on a neighbour's door and alerted her to the fire, potentially saving many lives'. Do people actually read the story first or just jump to wild conclusions?

As above, BIG pictures of the guy, when it is the FRIDGE that is the focus.

The Daily Mail won newspaper of the year at the Press Awards, so it is doing something right.

Probably the 'who earnt the most money throught shady reporting' award.
 
£10 million refit, 120 odd flats = over £83,000 / flat. Should at least have got a sprinkler system for that!

Yeah, the paper trail for this will be interesting as the investigation continues. The property business is pretty damn dodgy when it comes to allocation of funds.
 
Still yet to hear any good reason for publicly identifying him and plastering his face all over their website? What does that achieve in a story that's entirely innocently blaming a fridge?

Given the fact in their article they state:

  • Behailu Kebede raised the alarm as the Grenfell Tower inferno began to spread, his neighbours have said
  • Mr Kebede banged on a neighbour's door and alerted her to the fire, potentially saving many lives

It hardly seems they're trying to put blame on him. Yes they're using some form of click bait to get people to click the actual article, but it's clear from scanning it, they're not putting any form of blame on him at all, quite the opposite actually.

That not a good reason?
 
The story said 'Mr Kebede banged on a neighbour's door and alerted her to the fire, potentially saving many lives'. Do people actually read the story first or just jump to wild conclusions?


seriosuly here, both of you are commenting on people jumping to conclusions.

have you not realised that yes people jump to conclusions hence the problem?
 
seriosuly here, both of you are commenting on people jumping to conclusions.

have you not realised that yes people jump to conclusions hence the problem?

The irony is though those complaining are the ones jumping to conclusions. I've not seen evidence of a single person say anything negative about the guy at all.
 
for instance the DM comments section is already filling up with claims its "suspicious" "fridges dont do that" "why did he pack a bag of clothes instead of putting it out" etc.
 
The irony is though those complaining are the ones jumping to conclusions. I've not seen evidence of a single person say anything negative about the guy at all.


not really irony to point out that people jump to conclusions while jumping to a conclusion yourself.

kinda consistent.

whats ironic is your arguing that people dont jump to conclusions, with someone whos jumped to a conclusion and have yourself jumped to a conclusion based on limited evidence (what you've heard)
 
Wow, some of the Grenfell flats were bare nice!
Someone put a lot of effort and money kitting this flat out!

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not really irony to point out that people jump to conclusions while jumping to a conclusion yourself.

kinda consistent.

whats ironic is your arguing that people dont jump to conclusions, with someone whos jumped to a conclusion and have yourself jumped to a conclusion based on limited evidence (what you've heard)

What conclusion is that I've jumped to?
 
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