Tower block fire - london

ZG002 · 15 Jun 2017 at 22:39

Rroff said:
A so called "expert" that was talked to on one of the live streams covering it said no gas and it would have used boilers in the basement or something and radiant heat? no idea if its right or not.

Yeah that sounds about right, they either use communal heating systems with thermostats and valves in each flat or electric heating systems in each flat. Normally no gas supply to the actual flats for cookers etc.

But who knows? I've googled about it and it says a new heating system was installed, which leads me to belive it's a communal system.

Boge · 15 Jun 2017 at 22:46

ZG002 said:
But who knows? I've googled about it

Ahem

LOAM · 15 Jun 2017 at 22:48

Boge said:
Environmentally friendly cladding (installed under EU directive and grant)

What does that even mean? Which EU directive are you talking about? Thermal upgrade to the envelope of an existing building (dwellings) during a refurbishment is under ADL1B. It would be classed as an opportunity to improve and would be a requirement.

ZG002 · 15 Jun 2017 at 22:48

Boge said:
Ahem

Dude, you just seem to be full of **** tbh. You ever even been in one of these towers before?

Boge · 15 Jun 2017 at 22:48

Chris Wilson said:
Can you tell me about those please?

Nope.

Efour · 15 Jun 2017 at 22:49

Deffo blame the EU. EU approved and funded cladding... EU.. Leave the EU....

Boge · 15 Jun 2017 at 22:50

ZG002 said:
Dude, you just seem to be full of **** tbh. You ever even been in one of these towers before?

Actually yes. I surveyed over 5000 properties for local authorities

You?

Chris Wilson · 15 Jun 2017 at 22:55

Boge said:
Nope.

Retirement from your profession was probably a good idea....

I am sure the stress can have its toll.

Jean-F · 15 Jun 2017 at 22:56

I haven't read every post, on every page, but has any mealy mouthed s.o.b. said, "Lessons will be learned", yet?

LOAM · 15 Jun 2017 at 22:58

Efour said:
Deffo blame the EU. EU approved and funded cladding... EU.. Leave the EU....

Its utter madness, our conservation o fuel and power regs are improved in line with our climate change act 2008 targets and now redundant code for sustainable homes. This might form some wider EU collective agreement but its not as if we weren't willing partners.

Rroff · 15 Jun 2017 at 22:58

ZG002 said:
But who knows? I've googled about it and it says a new heating system was installed, which leads me to belive it's a communal system.

Bit of google lead me to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronan_Point seem lessons still are largely not learnt when it comes to these kind of buildings :s can't see anything that says for definite if this block had any kind of distributed gas supply or not.

Boge · 15 Jun 2017 at 23:01

Chris Wilson said:
Retirement from your profession was probably a good idea.

Err. I'm nearly 60?

Cern · 15 Jun 2017 at 23:03

Jean-F said:
I haven't read every post, on every page, but has any mealy mouthed s.o.b. said, "Lessons will be learned", yet?

Of course. None less than Theresa May who has said "if there are any lessons to be learnt they will be, and action will be taken."

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...tion-into-grenfell-tower-horror-a3565391.html

V F · 15 Jun 2017 at 23:04

Watching Question Time?

ZG002 · 15 Jun 2017 at 23:09

Boge said:
Actually yes. I surveyed over 5000 properties for local authorities

You?

Yeah company I work for owns 20 of them, I've been inspecting them for the past decade.

Boge · 15 Jun 2017 at 23:09

V F said:
Watching Question Time?

No. I'm watching the golf. Are they blaming it on shoddy workmanship from eastern europeans?

V F · 15 Jun 2017 at 23:14

Boge said:
No. I'm watching the golf. Are they blaming it on shoddy workmanship from eastern europeans?

Somewhat and endless talk of investigations/enquiries since Thornberry is mouthing off the most at the same time trying to speak in a soft compassionate voice as well as what shoulda, coulda been.

stewski · 15 Jun 2017 at 23:16

A good point made by the interviewee on news night was that an inquest(s) would be likely far more effective than yet another government led public enquiry!

Boge · 15 Jun 2017 at 23:16

ZG002 said:
Yeah company I work for owns 20 of them, I've been inspecting them for the past decade.

What a thrilling thing to do.

Seriously. After I gave up the day job - 8 years ago - I have been in some of the the most sordid, decrepit, dwelling units imaginable.

£500 a day though?

Was well worth it.

edscdk · 15 Jun 2017 at 23:44

In retrospect giving everyone a fire extinguisher would have been a good idea (thought if its social housing they probably would have been sold or used to break shop windows)