Trading the stockmarket (NO Referrals)

Does the 30 day rule apply on stock sold out of a normal account and rebought via an ISA.

Thanks


Isnt that 30 days to avoid capital gains and isa is exempt anyway. I think its ok, not an expert I dont use ISA much

http://www.fool.co.uk/Your-Money/guides/Capital-Gains-Tax-Share-Identification-Rules.aspx
there are a number of similar ideas that may still be of use (such as selling shares outside of an ISA and then rebuying within an ISA


1 April and deposit another £10.2k (ie in the next tax year)?

Two tax years is fine but new tax year is 5th April usually so next Weds is 2012 apparently

NI up by 1% I see

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...l=uk&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.co.uk


Sold some Hyder bought Lloyds Bp Gulfsands

Bp downside targets are 453 441 and it needs to be easily beating 461 and 476 this week to be considered positive I think
 
Last edited:
£10,680 from 5th April 2011.

I think I'll try and use ISA more for trades too now as once the cash is in you can do what you want, you don't pay stamp duty either, nor are you taxed extra on dividends. Another bonus is that you earn interest on uninvested cash.
 
Does the 30 day rule apply on stock sold out of a normal account and rebought via an ISA.

Nope. Bed & ISA (as opposed to the now outlawed Bed & Breakfast practice) is a legitmate CGT avoidance measure. :)

you don't pay stamp duty either

Another bonus is that you earn interest on uninvested cash.

The above is not accurate for the III Self-Select ISA that I used last year. :)
 
Thanks for the clarification on the Bed and ISA.

As for stamp duty - I didn't pay it on any of my HSBC S+S ISA trades, one of which was yesterday. And I have received interest.
 
Halifax does that, you cant take the money out but you can recycle it right that minute. Ive been told iii has a stock isa thats easy to use, simple and cheap if thats what you want

Bit of a warning for this one now:

I sold my shares in RRL (3k) and then moved the money from the settlement account into my ISA and bought RRL the following day.

Sounds fine - however the sell takes 3 days to clear before you receive funds but the money moves from current account into settlement account to balance the ISA transaction after 1 day.

So today I'm a bit overdrawn.
 
As for stamp duty - I didn't pay it on any of my HSBC S+S ISA trades, one of which was yesterday. And I have received interest.

Aye, just meant to highlight that the features you have experience of aren't necessarily indicative of other Self Select ISAs... :)

I can see the interest rate being vendor specific, but suprised to see the same being true for stamp duty? I thought stamp duty kicked in on all trades over £1000?
 
I'd expect CNR news first thing tomorrow. Think the December news came out on the first working day after the deadline so i wouldn't be staring at the screen all day!

Saying that they might suprise up with other news before the new JORC report.
 
I could use some good news, not thinking CNR is overvalued but what do I know anyhow. My best guess is to hold it, only a small amount - not watching it


Got much more in Cisco as its supposed to be safer. I think this is known as a value trap, looks like a cheap stock but its sinking.
Not really ideal to buy at least short term, unfortunately I have a bad habit of catching falling knives hoping they will hold. I see most chasing momentum upwards.

CSCO paid out their first dividend in over two decades. I got that right, ironic the share price falls 1.4% yield only PE 8 ?

Here is a short article going over cheap big cash rich tech stocks, Intel etc - http://on.mktw.net/eJJz0a


ISA more for trades too now as once the cash is in you can do what you want, you don't pay stamp duty either, nor are you taxed extra on dividends.


The explanation for the stamp duty is to match what I said earlier about multiple listed stocks working in an ISA
Stamp duty is not payable on all UK stocks.

ETF
Foreign based
ADR

and maybe a couple others like investment trusts. CEY used not to be taxable because it was also listed on ASX or Australia I think
However they have listed fully here now hence Im pretty sure it counts for 0.5% tax on buy only as do most stocks



CLF is multiple listed hence should be tax free and also that means eligable for an ISA despite being a tiddler/risky not fully listed stock as ISA requires.
Halifax sharebuilder states if stamp is payable when you put in an order, also iii I think


CLF slightly recovering from Ivory coast troubles. They have gold mine there but its shut for now, its not their biggest asset. Selling may be slightly unjustified because of that. Mostly they are in surrounding countries which are probably going to be fine, probably :o


Isa is good for 40% tax payers, no difference on dividends otherwise so far as I know unless you hold bonds
 
Last edited:
Sale/Purchase: Purchase
Stock Name: BARCLAYS ORD GBP0.25
Quantity: 1.351718

Unit Price (GBP): 2.80384

Consideration(GBP): 3.79

Commission Charged(GBP): 0.04
Stamp Duty(GBP): 0.02
PTM Levy(GBP): 0.00
Net Total Due(GBP): 3.85

I think the only way to avoid stamp would be to buy penny stocks 1 share at a time. If you owe less then half a penny in tax they dont round it up therefore you win a well earned bonus :p


MARCH 31, 2011, 11:00 AM ET
Analyst on Intel: Demand for Sandy Bridge a Bit Weak
http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/201...and-for-sandy-bridge-a-bit-weak/?mod=yahoo_hs
-2.5%
 
Last edited:
Back
Top Bottom