Trading the stockmarket (NO Referrals)

lewism · 27 Apr 2011 at 21:12

skeletonw00t said:
I never said they did. But if you want to see your 3 - 4% gains on FTSE listed companies etc go ahead.

It's always worth taking a punt on speculative companies in order to see some real gains.

I brought £5000 shares in BPC last July at around 3p... Now they are sitting around the 20p mark. You do the maths.

Some good tips here: http://brokermandaniel.com/
recommend reading that than the usual know it all type people who trawl these forums.

So have you sold them yet?

skeletonw00t · 27 Apr 2011 at 21:42

lewism said:
So have you sold them yet?

Nope but i've top skimmed £5000

It's still a share to watch and potentially could be at 100p within a few years.

And why would you want to stick to roulette where you have no assets & if you lose you lose fast and hard. Shares very very rarely crash in a day - you always have time to bail out without suffering too much of a loss.

Not all of those shares I listed were penny shares either.

It's good to have a diverse portfolio. Companies like Tesco or Vodafone are great to have a large investment in for dividend yeilds. But its also nice to have a few "punts" in there for large potential growth.

Ev0 · 27 Apr 2011 at 23:32

Ahh brokermandan, funny lad he was.

Started off over on the LSE forums as some kind of tea boy assistant, he's had more misses than hits

A lot of his musings and tips are obvious ones, I'd tread carefully when listening to his advice.

dowie · 27 Apr 2011 at 23:42

If any of these pundits could actually generate alpha they'd be managing serious $$$ not publishing 'tips' on websites.

silversurfer · 28 Apr 2011 at 12:48

Totally Alpha man

Do you know what all the factors relate to, like beta, theta, etc I know they measure stuff like volatility.
dowie you know a guide to all that? I think its options based or maybe Im talking rubbish there

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BP disappoints me today :/ (ex div wed) Dollar falling even harder, Im thinking that should help commodity prices but the FTSE is down anyway

Looking at HOC ANTO (ex div wed) and PMG is up 14% but I think it'll give another chance at a lower price then 16

CEY near 126 potential support

BP is a hold - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...BP-shares-a-hold-until-Russia-is-clearer.html

jamief · 28 Apr 2011 at 16:55

skeletonw00t said:
potential to be worth 250 X its current value within a few years.

Sorry - I guess I should've spelt it out. I'm well aware what "250 bagger" means (I work for an Investment Trust), I was wondering if you'd care to share WHY you think this company has the "potential" to grow 25000%

aardvark · 28 Apr 2011 at 17:05

Ev0 said:
Ahh brokermandan, funny lad he was.

Started off over on the LSE forums as some kind of tea boy assistant, he's had more misses than hits A lot of his musings and tips are obvious ones, I'd tread carefully when listening to his advice.

i agree - his old tips had lots of misses (the trp affair is well known), and his new ones are the obvious ones that lots of other people spotted months before he did. he is still useful to read though.

a better guy is Hub on iii - i find his analysis is very intelligent and i chose to invest in a number of shares he was talking about (not all, only the ones i agreed with him), and the majority have done very well.

Russinating · 28 Apr 2011 at 17:18

jamief said:
I was wondering if you'd care to share WHY you think this company has the "potential" to grow 25000%

I think everyone knows the answer (or lack thereof) to that

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In a similar fashion to the NT, I thought I'd share my spread bets to date. Only used one system so far (Tradefair) and I haven't closed any bets since opening (apart from a rolling LAND one which I then swapped over to June).

As you can see, not playing big or crazy but I'd say a 29% gain in 10 days isn't too bad (initial deposit was £500). I'm planning on getting to £1000 valuation (ie double my money) and then possibly upping my stakes to £2pp.

Oh Ed not again. · 3 May 2011 at 08:55

PacRim/El Sal hearing started yesterday, due to conclude on Wednesday. Could have a very positive bearing on CNR's SP if they rule in favour of PacRim.

http://www.stockhouse.com/News/CanadianReleasesDetail.aspx?n=8149708

silversurfer · 3 May 2011 at 17:17

Lawyer speak x_X

Pacific Rim about same size as CNR
Does El Sal have to listen to authority of the "Dominican Republic-United States-Central America Free Trade Agreement ("CAFTA)"

Was my email on SB any use Russ?

Anto I could have still sold for profit this morning but left it and unfortunately I was wrong so far. Long term its largely reliant on: Cost of Dollars - broke upwards but now its down on the day and this week (dollar still weak, metals still good imo)

Hoc also down but I still think it can be much more positive even when silver price is all over the place. Its very toppy looking, still counting Silver as strong long term (imo)
Historically silver is used in industrial inventories and extremely volatile vs Gold

Bought a bit of RRL. Might scale in but just a punt as I already hold

Bought Lloy sub 60 again (scaled small buy). I sold it ages ago at 62, they dont pay a div so in theory it accumulates in the price.
Never again but they used to pay 35p a share (Lloyds returned profits to holders, historically), more recently it was like 1p each quarter (or would have been if not banned) ala Barc

Some shares people voted as their pick of year, YTD

dowie · 3 May 2011 at 20:05

silversurfer said:
Totally Alpha man Do you know what all the factors relate to, like beta, theta, etc I know they measure stuff like volatility.
dowie you know a guide to all that? I think its options based or maybe Im talking rubbish there

Nah 'Alpha' in this instance isn't related specifically to options - rather its a risk adjusted performance measure. Essentially its the difference between the actual return and the expected excess return (accounting for risk).

As you mentioned options you're thinking of the 'greeks' delta, gamma, etc... delta being the rate at which the price of the option moves with the underlying instrument, gamma being the rate of change of delta in relation to the underlying.

I don't trade options but if you're interested then

http://www.888options.com/

has some educational info and also quite a neat tool to visualise different trading strategies.

If you're getting a book then wilmott's 'introduction to quantitative finance' is a good one to start with in general.

Russinating · 4 May 2011 at 10:47

silversurfer said:
Was my email on SB any use Russ?

Yes, very much so, thank you

. Thought I'd emailed back but obviously not!

Russinating · 4 May 2011 at 15:25

Loads of sectors down today. Anyone know what might be the cause?

nero120 · 5 May 2011 at 09:45

CAZA is the no 1 riser today at 12%! News must be imminent, get in whilst you can!

Aloreth · 5 May 2011 at 10:10

Saw HER has dipped below 3p - very tempted to put a small investment into them at that price.

Got some spare funds was thinking of either a) taking it down the casino b) investing in CRND i cant decide which would be the riskier move

Russinating · 5 May 2011 at 10:11

You'll have more fun at the casino

aardvark · 5 May 2011 at 10:16

nero120 said:
CAZA is the no 1 riser today at 12%! News must be imminent, get in whilst you can!

just bought some more caza this morning to average down - ridiculously oversold recently.

Aloreth · 5 May 2011 at 10:34

silversurfer, are your returns year to date (as stated) or from 1st Jan to date?

Simon · 5 May 2011 at 12:02

Lloyds is tempting at 52.5p.

silversurfer · 5 May 2011 at 12:36

Aloreth said:
silversurfer, are your returns year to date (as stated) or from 1st Jan to date?

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/5948/clipboard01so.jpg
On this pic ? It was setup in google finance portfolio by someone on another forum roughly in January.
YTD should always mean gains from Jan 1st 2011 to present date afaik

Range was about 3p a year ago, falling back a bit now. Can go lower still?

CNR back to 8.5p a buy, I think this is quite good to get like 6p turned out to be. Not certain though. 8.27 I have now, bad sb quote

I think its suffering dilution, to be expected I guess

Everything is falling in fact, this is typical. It would be too convenient if they all took a turn sequentially so I could shuffle the money around, it has to be all at once :mad:

Lloyds is good, if I do nothing else I guess my plan was to always double up at this price which makes for less then half the amount I sold at 62p ages ago. Bad news was always there, the price just got better

I think Barc was worse on PPI http://www.iii.co.uk/articles/15300/ppi-and-ireland-hit-lloyds-profits